PIR100 Details Released!

Candi Murray

2011-05-11

Brian
Even if there is no points for laps down, remember that people would be
scored based on the number of laps they are down.
So everyone on even laps would be ranked by points and order or finish, then
we would do the same with everyone 1 lap down etc. It would actually be
much easier to score if we could just give the negative points.
Candi

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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR100 Details Released!

Will this be a true points race format, where lapped riders are charged 20
points and can get back into the field and sprint for primes? The 20 points
awarded for lapping the field implies this, but it's a weird (and wonderful
IMO!) race format so some clarification is probably good. Not that I'm
planning on being a lapped rider or anything... but it'd be handy to know if
I should stay in the race or not should I lose contact. Implied in this is
the notion that if a small group succeeds in lapping the field, they are
awarded 20 points and everyone is back on the same lap again and the entire
field can sprint for primes.

Brian

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:53 PM, wrote:

PIR != STP... ;)

On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:03 -0700, Tom Orth wrote:
> I was not close to racing level fit and did 100 miles over 25 mph in
> STP a few years ago. The first day is almost completely flat, with
> only a couple of short hills. The number of riders was huge and the
> pacelines were so long it was easy to sit in and knock off 25 or 30
> miles without noticing.
>

> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Adam Edgerton wrote:
> PIR almost always holds together as a main pack. There will
> definitely be some attrition in this race, but I expect the peleton
> will finish intact, possibly with a break group up the road. Many of
> the PIR category 1/2/3 races average 27-28MPH over the course of a 40
> mile race, so it's pretty reasonable to think that 25MPH average over
> 100 is achievable on a perfectly flat course.
>
> We did add the "finish in under" 4 hours for prizes to be awarded
> stipulation mostly to keep the race fast so it finishes before dark.
> Otherwise there could be a tendency for a slow start to the race.
> However, the format with the regular hot spot sprints every few laps
> will also help to keep the pace fast. And don't worry - we'll award
> prizes even if the race finishes in 4:05. The bigger concern is that
> it finishes with enough light for camera scoring, and we don't want to
> have to shorten the race due to daylight. We promise 100 - we want you
> to be able to race 100!
>
> Adam
>

> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:
> Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
> Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
> miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
> (ish) mph?
>
> Just curious ...
>
> ~~shane
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton

> wrote:
> > Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The
> PIR100" on
> > the OBRA calendar.

> > See the full details at: http://pir100.com [4]

> > - July 4th, 2011
> > - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> > - Bring the family and the grill
> > - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> > - Big prizes
> > - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit
> laps

> > See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com [5] or contact
> me
> > (adam@racemondaynight.com [6]) with any questions!

> > Adam Edgerton
> > Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> > P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday
> PIR race
> > that evening.
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list

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Adam Edgerton

2011-05-10

We debated this for a while, but NO, you do not receive -20 points if you
fall behind a lap. You can continue racing as long as the officials choose
not to pull you.

BUT - there is one thing to keep in mind strategically - your free pit lap.
If you are losing contact with the group, you can opt to pit that lap, wait
for the peleton to come by, and hop back in. However, you only get one pit
lap total, so you won't be able to stop to feed later in the race or get
back in if you have a mechanical.

We threw the 20 point bonus out their for lapping the field because we
realized it would be a possibility (however slight) with a race that long.
The point bonus is big enough though that if a group of riders were to lap
the field, they would be swallowing up hot spot points along the way, and
the winner of the race would likely come out of that group as a result.

Adam

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Brian Ratliff wrote:

> Will this be a true points race format, where lapped riders are charged 20
> points and can get back into the field and sprint for primes? The 20 points
> awarded for lapping the field implies this, but it's a weird (and wonderful
> IMO!) race format so some clarification is probably good. Not that I'm
> planning on being a lapped rider or anything... but it'd be handy to know if
> I should stay in the race or not should I lose contact. Implied in this is
> the notion that if a small group succeeds in lapping the field, they are
> awarded 20 points and everyone is back on the same lap again and the entire
> field can sprint for primes.
>
> Brian
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:53 PM, wrote:
>
>> PIR != STP... ;)
>>
>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:03 -0700, Tom Orth wrote:
>> > I was not close to racing level fit and did 100 miles over 25 mph in
>> > STP a few years ago. The first day is almost completely flat, with
>> > only a couple of short hills. The number of riders was huge and the
>> > pacelines were so long it was easy to sit in and knock off 25 or 30
>> > miles without noticing.
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Adam Edgerton wrote:
>> > PIR almost always holds together as a main pack. There will
>> > definitely be some attrition in this race, but I expect the peleton
>> > will finish intact, possibly with a break group up the road. Many of
>> > the PIR category 1/2/3 races average 27-28MPH over the course of a 40
>> > mile race, so it's pretty reasonable to think that 25MPH average over
>> > 100 is achievable on a perfectly flat course.
>> >
>> > We did add the "finish in under" 4 hours for prizes to be awarded
>> > stipulation mostly to keep the race fast so it finishes before dark.
>> > Otherwise there could be a tendency for a slow start to the race.
>> > However, the format with the regular hot spot sprints every few laps
>> > will also help to keep the pace fast. And don't worry - we'll award
>> > prizes even if the race finishes in 4:05. The bigger concern is that
>> > it finishes with enough light for camera scoring, and we don't want to
>> > have to shorten the race due to daylight. We promise 100 - we want you
>> > to be able to race 100!
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>> > Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
>> > Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
>> > miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
>> > (ish) mph?
>> >
>> > Just curious ...
>> >
>> > ~~shane
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
>> > wrote:
>> > > Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The
>> > PIR100" on
>> > > the OBRA calendar.
>> > > See the full details at: http://pir100.com [4]
>> > > - July 4th, 2011
>> > > - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
>> > > - Bring the family and the grill
>> > > - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
>> > > - Big prizes
>> > > - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit
>> > laps
>> > > See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com [5] or contact
>> > me
>> > > (adam@racemondaynight.com [6]) with any questions!
>> > > Adam Edgerton
>> > > Monday PIR/The PIR 100
>> > > P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday
>> > PIR race
>> > > that evening.
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > OBRA mailing list
>> > > obra@list.obra.org [7]
>> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra [8]
>> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org [9]
>> > >
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>> >
>> > Links:
>> > ------
>> > [1] mailto:atedgerton@gmail.com
>> > [2] mailto:sygibson@gmail.com
>> > [3] mailto:adam@racemondaynight.com
>> > [4] http://pir100.com
>> > [5] http://pir100.com
>> > [6] mailto:adam@racemondaynight.com
>> > [7] mailto:obra@list.obra.org
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Brian Ratliff

2011-05-10

Will this be a true points race format, where lapped riders are charged 20
points and can get back into the field and sprint for primes? The 20 points
awarded for lapping the field implies this, but it's a weird (and wonderful
IMO!) race format so some clarification is probably good. Not that I'm
planning on being a lapped rider or anything... but it'd be handy to know if
I should stay in the race or not should I lose contact. Implied in this is
the notion that if a small group succeeds in lapping the field, they are
awarded 20 points and everyone is back on the same lap again and the entire
field can sprint for primes.

Brian

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:53 PM, wrote:

> PIR != STP... ;)
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:03 -0700, Tom Orth wrote:
> > I was not close to racing level fit and did 100 miles over 25 mph in
> > STP a few years ago. The first day is almost completely flat, with
> > only a couple of short hills. The number of riders was huge and the
> > pacelines were so long it was easy to sit in and knock off 25 or 30
> > miles without noticing.
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Adam Edgerton wrote:
> > PIR almost always holds together as a main pack. There will
> > definitely be some attrition in this race, but I expect the peleton
> > will finish intact, possibly with a break group up the road. Many of
> > the PIR category 1/2/3 races average 27-28MPH over the course of a 40
> > mile race, so it's pretty reasonable to think that 25MPH average over
> > 100 is achievable on a perfectly flat course.
> >
> > We did add the "finish in under" 4 hours for prizes to be awarded
> > stipulation mostly to keep the race fast so it finishes before dark.
> > Otherwise there could be a tendency for a slow start to the race.
> > However, the format with the regular hot spot sprints every few laps
> > will also help to keep the pace fast. And don't worry - we'll award
> > prizes even if the race finishes in 4:05. The bigger concern is that
> > it finishes with enough light for camera scoring, and we don't want to
> > have to shorten the race due to daylight. We promise 100 - we want you
> > to be able to race 100!
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:
> > Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
> > Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
> > miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
> > (ish) mph?
> >
> > Just curious ...
> >
> > ~~shane
> >
> > --
> > "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
> > wrote:
> > > Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The
> > PIR100" on
> > > the OBRA calendar.
> > > See the full details at: http://pir100.com [4]
> > > - July 4th, 2011
> > > - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> > > - Bring the family and the grill
> > > - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> > > - Big prizes
> > > - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit
> > laps
> > > See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com [5] or contact
> > me
> > > (adam@racemondaynight.com [6]) with any questions!
> > > Adam Edgerton
> > > Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> > > P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday
> > PIR race
> > > that evening.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org [7]
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra [8]
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org [9]
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] mailto:atedgerton@gmail.com
> > [2] mailto:sygibson@gmail.com
> > [3] mailto:adam@racemondaynight.com
> > [4] http://pir100.com
> > [5] http://pir100.com
> > [6] mailto:adam@racemondaynight.com
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joec@aracnet.com

2011-05-10

PIR != STP... ;)

On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:03 -0700, Tom Orth wrote:
> I was not close to racing level fit and did 100 miles over 25 mph in
> STP a few years ago.  The first day is almost completely flat, with
> only a couple of short hills.  The number of riders was huge and the
> pacelines were so long it was easy to sit in and knock off 25 or 30
> miles without noticing.
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Adam Edgerton wrote:
> PIR almost always holds together as a main pack. There will
> definitely be some attrition in this race, but I expect the peleton
> will finish intact, possibly with a break group up the road. Many of
> the PIR category 1/2/3 races average 27-28MPH over the course of a 40
> mile race, so it's pretty reasonable to think that 25MPH average over
> 100 is achievable on a perfectly flat course.
>
> We did add the "finish in under" 4 hours for prizes to be awarded
> stipulation mostly to keep the race fast so it finishes before dark.
> Otherwise there could be a tendency for a slow start to the race.
> However, the format with the regular hot spot sprints every few laps
> will also help to keep the pace fast.  And don't worry - we'll award
> prizes even if the race finishes in 4:05. The bigger concern is that
> it finishes with enough light for camera scoring, and we don't want to
> have to shorten the race due to daylight. We promise 100 - we want you
> to be able to race 100!
>
> Adam
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:
> Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer.  Let alone a track racer.
> Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
> miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
> (ish) mph?
>
> Just curious ...
>
> ~~shane
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized."   - Sun Tzu
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
> wrote:
> > Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The
> PIR100" on
> > the OBRA calendar.
> > See the full details at: http://pir100.com [4]
> > - July 4th, 2011
> > - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> > - Bring the family and the grill
> > - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> > - Big prizes
> > - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit
> laps
> > See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com [5] or contact
> me
> > (adam@racemondaynight.com [6]) with any questions!
> > Adam Edgerton
> > Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> > P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday
> PIR race
> > that evening.
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org [7]
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra [8]
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org [9]
> >
> >
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> [2] mailto:sygibson@gmail.com
> [3] mailto:adam@racemondaynight.com
> [4] http://pir100.com
> [5] http://pir100.com
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Tom Orth

2011-05-10

I was not close to racing level fit and did 100 miles over 25 mph in STP a
few years ago. The first day is almost completely flat, with only a couple
of short hills. The number of riders was huge and the pacelines were so
long it was easy to sit in and knock off 25 or 30 miles without noticing.

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Adam Edgerton wrote:

> PIR almost always holds together as a main pack. There will definitely be
> some attrition in this race, but I expect the peleton will finish intact,
> possibly with a break group up the road. Many of the PIR category 1/2/3
> races average 27-28MPH over the course of a 40 mile race, so it's pretty
> reasonable to think that 25MPH average over 100 is achievable on a perfectly
> flat course.
>
> We did add the "finish in under" 4 hours for prizes to be awarded
> stipulation mostly to keep the race fast so it finishes before dark.
> Otherwise there could be a tendency for a slow start to the race. However,
> the format with the regular hot spot sprints every few laps will also help
> to keep the pace fast. And don't worry - we'll award prizes even if the
> race finishes in 4:05. The bigger concern is that it finishes with enough
> light for camera scoring, and we don't want to have to shorten the race due
> to daylight. We promise 100 - we want you to be able to race 100!
>
> Adam
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>
>> Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
>> Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
>> miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
>> (ish) mph?
>>
>> Just curious ...
>>
>> ~~shane
>>
>> --
>> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
>> wrote:
>> > Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The PIR100"
>> on
>> > the OBRA calendar.
>> > See the full details at: http://pir100.com
>> > - July 4th, 2011
>> > - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
>> > - Bring the family and the grill
>> > - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
>> > - Big prizes
>> > - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit laps
>> > See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com or contact me
>> > (adam@racemondaynight.com) with any questions!
>> > Adam Edgerton
>> > Monday PIR/The PIR 100
>> > P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday PIR
>> race
>> > that evening.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OBRA mailing list
>> > obra@list.obra.org
>> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>> >
>> >
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Adam Edgerton

2011-05-10

PIR almost always holds together as a main pack. There will definitely be
some attrition in this race, but I expect the peleton will finish intact,
possibly with a break group up the road. Many of the PIR category 1/2/3
races average 27-28MPH over the course of a 40 mile race, so it's pretty
reasonable to think that 25MPH average over 100 is achievable on a perfectly
flat course.

We did add the "finish in under" 4 hours for prizes to be awarded
stipulation mostly to keep the race fast so it finishes before dark.
Otherwise there could be a tendency for a slow start to the race. However,
the format with the regular hot spot sprints every few laps will also help
to keep the pace fast. And don't worry - we'll award prizes even if the
race finishes in 4:05. The bigger concern is that it finishes with enough
light for camera scoring, and we don't want to have to shorten the race due
to daylight. We promise 100 - we want you to be able to race 100!

Adam

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:

> Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
> Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
> miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
> (ish) mph?
>
> Just curious ...
>
> ~~shane
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
> wrote:
> > Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The PIR100"
> on
> > the OBRA calendar.
> > See the full details at: http://pir100.com
> > - July 4th, 2011
> > - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> > - Bring the family and the grill
> > - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> > - Big prizes
> > - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit laps
> > See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com or contact me
> > (adam@racemondaynight.com) with any questions!
> > Adam Edgerton
> > Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> > P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday PIR
> race
> > that evening.
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Long, Steve

2011-05-10

Track Length

* Without "Festival Turns" - 1.915 miles and 9 turns.
* With "Festival Turns" - 1.967 miles and 12 turns.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Dan H
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:21 PM
To: Shane Gibson; OBRA List
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR100 Details Released!

I have carefully calibrated my computer by rolling my bike on a flat
surface
with the tires up to racing pressure with my weight on the bike three
times
and average to the closest millimeter so the mileage should be pretty
accurate, right? With the new corner, PIR is supposed to be 2 miles but
15
laps results in 27 miles (in round numbers) covered by my computer. Is
PIR
less than 2 miles or do we shave that much distance hugging the turns?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Gibson"
To: "OBRA List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR100 Details Released!

Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
(ish) mph?

Just curious ...

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
wrote:
> Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The
PIR100" on
> the OBRA calendar.
> See the full details at: http://pir100.com
> - July 4th, 2011
> - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> - Bring the family and the grill
> - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> - Big prizes
> - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit laps
> See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com or contact me
> (adam@racemondaynight.com) with any questions!
> Adam Edgerton
> Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday PIR

> race
> that evening.
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>
>
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Dan H

2011-05-10

I have carefully calibrated my computer by rolling my bike on a flat surface
with the tires up to racing pressure with my weight on the bike three times
and average to the closest millimeter so the mileage should be pretty
accurate, right? With the new corner, PIR is supposed to be 2 miles but 15
laps results in 27 miles (in round numbers) covered by my computer. Is PIR
less than 2 miles or do we shave that much distance hugging the turns?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Gibson"
To: "OBRA List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR100 Details Released!

Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
(ish) mph?

Just curious ...

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
wrote:
> Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The PIR100" on
> the OBRA calendar.
> See the full details at: http://pir100.com
> - July 4th, 2011
> - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> - Bring the family and the grill
> - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> - Big prizes
> - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit laps
> See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com or contact me
> (adam@racemondaynight.com) with any questions!
> Adam Edgerton
> Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday PIR
> race
> that evening.
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>
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Shane Gibson

2011-05-10

Okay - I'll admit - I'm not a road racer. Let alone a track racer.
Is it reasonable to assume that the slowest rider will finish 101.23
miles of racing on a flat track while averaging a minimum of 25.3
(ish) mph?

Just curious ...

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."   - Sun Tzu

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Adam Edgerton
wrote:
> Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The PIR100" on
> the OBRA calendar.
> See the full details at: http://pir100.com
> - July 4th, 2011
> - 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
> - Bring the family and the grill
> - A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
> - Big prizes
> - Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit laps
> See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com or contact me
> (adam@racemondaynight.com) with any questions!
> Adam Edgerton
> Monday PIR/The PIR 100
> P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday PIR race
> that evening.
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>


Adam Edgerton

2011-05-10

Until now there's been speculation and mystery surrounding "The PIR100" on
the OBRA calendar.

See the full details at: http://pir100.com

- July 4th, 2011
- 100 Miles at PIR in a single night!
- Bring the family and the grill
- A scoring system to keep the race fast and competitive
- Big prizes
- Special rules to accommodate the race length, including pit laps

See the website for all the info: http://pir100.com or contact me (
adam@racemondaynight.com) with any questions!

Adam Edgerton
Monday PIR/The PIR 100

P.S. Please note: this race will take the place of standard Monday PIR race
that evening.