Mike Murray

Yep, you are right. People put on races when it is easier for them and when they think that they will get people to come. People go to races when there are races put on and when they like those races. Date and location are a couple of the things they consider.

Races are put on early in the season because it is easier then and because people go to those races not the other way around.

Banana Belt is a good example. A few weeks later and the fishing season opens and road use is much harder to get. A few weeks later and there are competing events so attendance drops.

Keep in mind that the drop in early season attendance this year in part demonstrates that the market for the early season races is getting smaller. Race organizers have noticed this and are changing their plans for next year.

Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: ronfrerichs@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:35:39
To:
Reply-To: ronfrerichs@hotmail.com
Cc: remailer, OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

Mike,

If there were races of equal quality and accessibility held all season long, then I would agree with you that people would vote with their wallet and pick their races.

But, if people like the races that are held early, then that's when they're going to race.

Ron

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Murray"
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Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:09:06
Reply-To: mike.murray@obra.org
Cc: remailer, OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

OBRA does participate in the scheduling of races. OBRA puts the race organizers in contact with each other to negotiate dates, publicises a schedule, hosts discussions such as this, etc. Ultimately organizers put on the events. OBRA cannot force people to put on or not put on events. OBRA cannot plan a schedule.

Ultimately people vote with their entry fees. For years they have voted for earlier races and for stage races. This year it appears the tide may be turning.

Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe King
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:42:11
To: Tim Schauer
Cc: OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

I've had a long simmering tangent about the state of road racing these
days. So I might as well just put it all out here, and then shut up
about it.

First off, I really appreciate everyone who is working hard to put on
road races and give us a ton of opportunities to race. Without all the
promoters and officials and volunteers, I would just be riding around
in the rain, probably alone.

All of these opinions are from the view of a Cat1/2 road racer, with
6-7 years experience primarily in Oregon and Washington:

- There are far more races to attend these days, especially stage
races. When I started, Walla Walla would have been a few weeks ago,
Columbia Plateau coming up. Mt Hood and Elkhorn in June and Cascade in
July were the biggies (Willamette was before my time). Now we've got
Cherry Blossom and WW done, Wenatchee was this weekend, Olympic Stage
race coming up. Hood is earlier. Stage races pull from one-day events
big time. It's easy to pass up a one-day if you're stage racing next
week, or take week off after.

- To be successful road races basically need three things: relatively
easy to get to (~2hr. travel time for most), good prize list, good
course/long race. If a race has all these things, it will do really
well. When Piece of Cake was in Longview, there were fields of 80+
from OR and WA, prize list was great, great racing even if the course
was nothing special. If a $2,000 prize list doubles the size of the
field, it's a net gain for the promoter.

- Races now are SHORT. It's easier to stay home and do 70-80 miles
than get in the car and drive to a race where you do 60 and maybe not
even get a workout. Cat 1/2 road races should be 80+ miles.

- The early racing is getting ridiculous. 1/2 the schedule is over by
the middle of April. OBRA should participate in the scheduling of
races. Model it after the classics, reserve maybe 2 weekends a month
for the premiere events, then let the TT/crits fall in around that.

Oregon could have a ton of premiere amateur road races that attract
riders from all over the region. But it doesn't look like there a
schedule is being planned to facilitate that. A bunch of big, long,
fun road races March - June would attract a ton of riders, and then
maybe some in late summer. Instead, it's the second week in May and
road season is pretty much over.

Thanks,
Joe King

Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tim Schauer wrote:
> As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
> weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
> and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
> year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
> popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
> past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:
>
>> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever remember.
>>
>> Candi
>>
>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen.  It seems like the State
>>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year.  Why not have them
>>> at the end of the season?  I remember when they were in August.  Why not
>>> August or even September?
>>>
>>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>>> compliment Nationals.  Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
>>> does it really matter?
>>>
>>> Our championships are about our State and its riders.  If the races were
>>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
>>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>>>_________________________
>>> Jon Nigbor
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>>>
>>> Men 4-5
>>>
>>> 1    5391    Lagerstrom    Eric    Athletes Lounge    Gresham
>>> 2    4348    DiMarco    David    SLOCUM Rebound Racing    Eugene
>>> 3    4380    Gibson    Nathan    0    Portland
>>> 4    5301    Nelson    Eric    Soraz Racing    Woodland
>>> 5    4308    Boerner    David    0    Fort Collins
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PDX proper does not have a stage race because road use permitting in a more populous area is more difficult.
Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:25:37
To: Jon Nigbor
Cc:
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

Really what I think it comes down to is $4 a gallon on gas makes this hobby just that much more expensive and a solution to that is tough. Maybe a more organized ride share program?
What I wonder is why PDX proper does not have a stage race?

BM

On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:

> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have them
> at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why not
> August or even September?
>
> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
> compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
> does it really matter?
>
> Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races were
> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
> _________________________
> Jon Nigbor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>
> Men 4-5
>
> 1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
> 2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
> 3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
> 4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
> 5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
> 6 5109 Hawkyard Matt Bike Newport-Bier One Newport
> 7 4051 Neill Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Eugene
> 8 5540 Miller Dustin Capitol Velo Keizer
> 9 4375 Borum Jason Jens Voigt's Army Portland
> 10 8007 Artner Adam Cycle Analysis-Landshark Central
> Point
> 11 5212 Chow Alexander 0 Eugene
> 12 5887 Stevenson Luke #N/A Portland
> 13 5633 Knaus Tory 0 Portland
> 14 5649 Grummon Geoff PSIMET/Zilla Racing Portland
> 15 4466 Schiller Brian Guinness Cycling Team Portland
>
> 16 4136 Lin John Hammer Velo Portland
> 17 5194 Johnsen Nathan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 18 5119 Williams Steve Capitol Velo Salem
> 19 94 Zukowski Josiah #N/A 0
> 20 4366 Driscoll Kevin Presto Velo - Bicycle Attorney
> Portland
> 21 95 Sigurdson Brad #N/A Keizer
> 22 5369 Pan Dylan 0 Eugene
> 23 5388 Castelan Julio 0 Stayton
> 24 5089 Mabayoje Bukie 0 Hillsboro
> DNF 5522 R Magel Christopher Bike Newport-Bier One Newport 30
> DNF 4282 Smith Darren Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend 36
>
>
> Women 1-2
>
> 1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland
>
> 2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield
>
> 3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton
>
> 5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
> 6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
>
> 7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
> Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
> 8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
> 9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland
>
> 10 3219 Maguire Sarah Team Kenda p/b Geargrinder Portland
>
> 11 233 Simmons Mindy Portland
> 12 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
> Portland
> DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland
>
> DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
> DNS 209 Otero-Lopez Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
> Racing Team Bend
>
>
> Women 3
>
> 1 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Portland
> 2 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
> 3 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
> 4 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
> 5 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
> Oswego
> 6 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> 7 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S+M Portland
> DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
>
> Sr. Women-Combined
>
> 1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland
>
> 2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield
>
> 3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton
>
> 5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
> 6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
>
> 7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
> Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
> 8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
> 9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland
>
> 10 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Portland
> 11 3219 Maguire Sarah Portland
> 12 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
> 13 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
> 14 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
> 15 233 Simmons Mindy 0 Portland
> 16 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
> Portland
> 17 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
> Oswego
> 18 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> 19 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S & M Portland
> DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
> DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
> DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland
>
> DNS 209 Lopez-Otero Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
> Racing Team Bend
>
>
> Women 4
>
> 1 8050 Johannesen Annika Bend
> 2 7110 Burton Alexandra Upper Echelon Fitness Women's
> Cycling Portland
> 3 7143 Schultz Alexandria Unattached Portland
> 4 7031 Jilot Trish Sorella Forte Portland
> 5 7078 Clark Sandra Word-RCB Portland
> 6 7131 Miller Gabi Sorella Forte Tigard
> 7 97 Rappe Helen University of Oregon Cycling Club
> Portland
> 8 7029 Wohlert Karin Sorella Forte Portland
> DNF 7079 Cooper Catherine Portland
>
>
> Women Master 40+
>
> 1 7086 Jerko Christine Sorella Forte Portland
> 2 7090 Ralle Martina Sorella Forte Portland
>
>
> Pro 1-2
>
> 1 949 Gray Scott Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Bend
> 2 92 Peterson Kennett Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling
> Sherwood
> 3 875 English Rob Hutch's Eugene
> 4 801 Winn Brad Team S+M Portland
> 5 924 Gallant Brendon 0 Salem
> 6 102 Beardsley Steven Gentle Lovers Portland
> 7 800 Carlson Ryan Cyclepath Racing Portland
> 8 101 Liberles Joshua HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
> Portland
> 9 876 Bourcier Paul Hutch's-Eugene Eugene
> 10 928 Hansen Jake Word-RCB Portland
> 11 898 Boone Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Bend
> 12 187 King Joseph Guinness Cycling Team Portland
> 13 3199 McCoy jonathan Ironclad Performance Wear
> Portland
> 14 973 Edgerton Adam Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> 15 111 Romer Elijah Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 16 794 Palmer Michael Veloce Racing Portland
> 17 908 McCutcheon Connor #N/A Bend
> 18 91 Winter Zach Guinness Cycling Team Salem
> 19 128 Braun Mathew Team SCR/Kona Portland
> 20 141 Mittermann Galen HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
> Portland
> 21 883 Dubois Christopher Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> 22 942 Richardson Adrian Ruckus Test Team Portland
>
> 23 815 Heaberlin Cliff Guinness Cycling Team Portland
>
> 24 46 Marzullo Patrick Embrocation Cycling Portland
>
> 25 888 Hoefer Carl Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Portland ***Warning for Rider Misconduct***
> 26 3101 Laubernds William Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> DNF 966 Wells David Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> DNF 871 Blackwelder Mark Gentle Lovers Portland
> DNF 940 McAllister Garrett GrandStay Hotels Bend
> DNF 968 Emoff Brent Diamond Law Cycling Team Portland
>
> DNF 834 Willis Andrew Ironclad Performance Wear Vancouver
>
>
>
> Men Cat 3
>
> 1 328 Sherman David Bridgetown Velo Portland
> 2 4165 Shane Bennett Portland State University Portland
>
> 3 770 Miller Ryan Pacific Power Blue Sky Corvallis
> 4 4346 sampson mckenzie 0 Eugene
> 5 750 McDade Stephen Beaverton Bicycle Club tigard
> 6 3001 wentz alex Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 7 691 Kostur Phelan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> lake oswego
> 8 3109 Winans Chris Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Bend
> 9 3081 Clemens Alexander Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> 10 575 Bene Mike Yard Dawgs Book Club Portland
> 11 3037 Buchholz Cort Therapeutic Associates
> Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Milwaukie
> 12 3010 Fox Matt Swell Velo Bend
> 13 3190 Brody Ross Buy Local Cycling Salem
> 14 3123 Kroman Alex Portland Velo Portland
> 15 3203 Newman James 0 Portland
> 16 3132 Penner Daniel Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
>
> 17 3125 Owens Steve FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
> 18 766 Utz Andrew HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
> Portland
> 19 4276 Lang Timothy KWC-Tempo Portland
> 20 3093 Brown Jeff Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Lake Oswego
> 21 3076 Utz Zachary Ruckus Test Team Portland
> 22 8089 Sprague Cole Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
> 23 611 Brown Mike Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Bend
> 24 664 Walburn Brian Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling Issaquah
>
> 25 3137 Lightman Alex Guinness Cycling Team portland
>
> 26 3079 Pollock Jeffrey Portland Velo Portland
> 27 689 Cottle Brady #N/A Bend
> 28 594 Osgood Brayton Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
> 29 4209 Johnson Ben Portland Velo Portland
> 30 3127 Strode Zac Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> DQ 15.7.1 3113 Crouch Joel Ironclad Performance Wear
> Portland DQ per rule 15.7.1
> DNF 586 Feig Jason Portland Velo Clackamas
> DNF 3084 Ward Chris Guinness Cycling Team Corvallis
> DNF 3073 Ferron Joseph OSU Cycling Club Corvallis
> DNF 3077 Sheppard Mike 0 Portland
> DNF 3009 Dunn Jeff FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
> DNF 3094 Ratliff Brian Portland Velo Hillsboro
>
>
> Master Men 40+ Cat 3
>
> 1 624 Rogers Bruce Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
> 2 340 Magilner Mark Half Fast Velo SALEM
> 3 3138 Masuda David Team Bike Tires Direct Tigard
> 4 531 Albrow Richard Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 5 704 Babcock Ron Portland Velo Hillsboro
> 6 613 Fennerl Jurgen Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 7 538 Choltus Karl Harder Cycling Portland
> 8 3007 Blacklock Nick Team Bike Tires Direct Happy Valley
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 9 3071 Dirks Tony Mountain View Cycles Hood River
> 10 3008 Coca Tony Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Sandy
> 11 580 Goldstein Scott EWEB Windpower Eugene ***Warning
> for Centerline Violation***
> 12 706 Hittner Tim Veloforma Factory Team Bend
> 13 325 Goff Wade Half Fast Velo Sherwood
> DQ 15.7.1 90 Engel Matt Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
> Racing Team Bend DQ per rule 15.7.1
> DNF 3033 Cooper Michael 0 Portland
> DNF 618 Masessa Dave Flywheel Bicycle Solutions Medford
>
>
> Master Men 40+ Cat 4-5
>
> 1 4208 James Ken Bicycle Services Direct Wilsonville
> 2 4106 Prosser John Taleo Racing Hillsboro
> 3 4095 Girard Michael Portland Velo Portland
> 4 5183 Burrows Peter Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> 5 4047 Boyle Wayne Pacific Power Blue Sky Portland
> 6 4052 Billingsley Kevin Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
>
> 7 4161 Spillman Erik Portland Velo Portland
> DQ 15.7.1 4325 Holmes Steve Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
> DQ per rule 15.7.1
> DNF 4082 Doughty David Portland Velo Beaverton
> DNF 4024 Kenlan Chuck Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
> DNF 4020 Lasala Matthew Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
>
>
> Master Men 50+ Cat 3
>
> 1 596 O'Brien John West End Bikes/Specialized Ridgefield
>
> 2 3126 Slawta John Land Shark Talent
> 3 707 Long Steve 0 Milwaukie ***Warning for
> Centerline Violation***
> 4 509 Stone Cal Unattached Camas
>
>
> Master Men 50+ Cat 4-5
>
> 1 4036 Kenney John Mountain View Cycles Hood River
> 2 5108 Upton Rick Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
> 3 5336 ontkean mike 0 Camas
> 4 5699 Cortright Robert #N/A Salem
> 5 5215 Gornick Jon Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 6 4211 O'Connell Kevin Hammer Velo Portland
> DNF 5484 Marks Tracy na Portland
>
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Mike Murray

Last year OBRA "gave" a date to the championship races. That didn't work. OBRA does give out a schedule in that the race organizers have a meeting and a schedule is hashed out. Are you suggesting that the OBRA board tell organizers when they are going to have their races, or that the membership have a vote to tell the organizers? What if they say they don't want to have the race on those dates?

I am not sure this would be a change for the better. I expect that race organizers would chafe under such a system. Many would just decide to not do their race. Certainly the collapse of socialist governments around the world argues against such a central planning scheme.
Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe King
Sender: uzideth@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:14:36
To:
Cc: remailer, OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

My point is that racing as a whole would benefit if OBRA did set a schedule
for marquee events. They won't have to force them, just give the best dates
to the best promoters. Schedule the dates so that it makes sense in the
grand scheme of weather, travel and the race calendar.

It would be a change, but for the better.

Thanks
Joe King

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Mike Murray wrote:
> OBRA does participate in the scheduling of races. OBRA puts the race
organizers in contact with each other to negotiate dates, publicises a
schedule, hosts discussions such as this, etc. Ultimately organizers put on
the events. OBRA cannot force people to put on or not put on events. OBRA
cannot plan a schedule.
>
> Ultimately people vote with their entry fees. For years they have voted
for earlier races and for stage races. This year it appears the tide may be
turning.
>
> Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe King
> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:42:11
> To: Tim Schauer
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR
Saturday
>
> I've had a long simmering tangent about the state of road racing these
> days. So I might as well just put it all out here, and then shut up
> about it.
>
> First off, I really appreciate everyone who is working hard to put on
> road races and give us a ton of opportunities to race. Without all the
> promoters and officials and volunteers, I would just be riding around
> in the rain, probably alone.
>
> All of these opinions are from the view of a Cat1/2 road racer, with
> 6-7 years experience primarily in Oregon and Washington:
>
> - There are far more races to attend these days, especially stage
> races. When I started, Walla Walla would have been a few weeks ago,
> Columbia Plateau coming up. Mt Hood and Elkhorn in June and Cascade in
> July were the biggies (Willamette was before my time). Now we've got
> Cherry Blossom and WW done, Wenatchee was this weekend, Olympic Stage
> race coming up. Hood is earlier. Stage races pull from one-day events
> big time. It's easy to pass up a one-day if you're stage racing next
> week, or take week off after.
>
> - To be successful road races basically need three things: relatively
> easy to get to (~2hr. travel time for most), good prize list, good
> course/long race. If a race has all these things, it will do really
> well. When Piece of Cake was in Longview, there were fields of 80+
> from OR and WA, prize list was great, great racing even if the course
> was nothing special. If a $2,000 prize list doubles the size of the
> field, it's a net gain for the promoter.
>
> - Races now are SHORT. It's easier to stay home and do 70-80 miles
> than get in the car and drive to a race where you do 60 and maybe not
> even get a workout. Cat 1/2 road races should be 80+ miles.
>
> - The early racing is getting ridiculous. 1/2 the schedule is over by
> the middle of April. OBRA should participate in the scheduling of
> races. Model it after the classics, reserve maybe 2 weekends a month
> for the premiere events, then let the TT/crits fall in around that.
>
> Oregon could have a ton of premiere amateur road races that attract
> riders from all over the region. But it doesn't look like there a
> schedule is being planned to facilitate that. A bunch of big, long,
> fun road races March - June would attract a ton of riders, and then
> maybe some in late summer. Instead, it's the second week in May and
> road season is pretty much over.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe King
>
>
> Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tim Schauer
wrote:
>> As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
>> weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
>> and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
>> year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
>> popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
>> past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:
>>
>>> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever
remember.
>>>
>>> Candi
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor"
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
>>>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have
them
>>>> at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why
not
>>>> August or even September?
>>>>
>>>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>>>> compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for
Nationals so
>>>> does it really matter?
>>>>
>>>> Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races
were
>>>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate
and
>>>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>>>>_________________________
>>>> Jon Nigbor
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR
Saturday
>>>>
>>>> Men 4-5
>>>>
>>>> 1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
>>>> 2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
>>>> 3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
>>>> 4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
>>>> 5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
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ronfrerichs@hotmail.com

Mike,

If there were races of equal quality and accessibility held all season long, then I would agree with you that people would vote with their wallet and pick their races.

But, if people like the races that are held early, then that's when they're going to race.

Ron

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Murray"
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Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:09:06
Reply-To: mike.murray@obra.org
Cc: remailer, OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

OBRA does participate in the scheduling of races. OBRA puts the race organizers in contact with each other to negotiate dates, publicises a schedule, hosts discussions such as this, etc. Ultimately organizers put on the events. OBRA cannot force people to put on or not put on events. OBRA cannot plan a schedule.

Ultimately people vote with their entry fees. For years they have voted for earlier races and for stage races. This year it appears the tide may be turning.

Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe King
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:42:11
To: Tim Schauer
Cc: OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

I've had a long simmering tangent about the state of road racing these
days. So I might as well just put it all out here, and then shut up
about it.

First off, I really appreciate everyone who is working hard to put on
road races and give us a ton of opportunities to race. Without all the
promoters and officials and volunteers, I would just be riding around
in the rain, probably alone.

All of these opinions are from the view of a Cat1/2 road racer, with
6-7 years experience primarily in Oregon and Washington:

- There are far more races to attend these days, especially stage
races. When I started, Walla Walla would have been a few weeks ago,
Columbia Plateau coming up. Mt Hood and Elkhorn in June and Cascade in
July were the biggies (Willamette was before my time). Now we've got
Cherry Blossom and WW done, Wenatchee was this weekend, Olympic Stage
race coming up. Hood is earlier. Stage races pull from one-day events
big time. It's easy to pass up a one-day if you're stage racing next
week, or take week off after.

- To be successful road races basically need three things: relatively
easy to get to (~2hr. travel time for most), good prize list, good
course/long race. If a race has all these things, it will do really
well. When Piece of Cake was in Longview, there were fields of 80+
from OR and WA, prize list was great, great racing even if the course
was nothing special. If a $2,000 prize list doubles the size of the
field, it's a net gain for the promoter.

- Races now are SHORT. It's easier to stay home and do 70-80 miles
than get in the car and drive to a race where you do 60 and maybe not
even get a workout. Cat 1/2 road races should be 80+ miles.

- The early racing is getting ridiculous. 1/2 the schedule is over by
the middle of April. OBRA should participate in the scheduling of
races. Model it after the classics, reserve maybe 2 weekends a month
for the premiere events, then let the TT/crits fall in around that.

Oregon could have a ton of premiere amateur road races that attract
riders from all over the region. But it doesn't look like there a
schedule is being planned to facilitate that. A bunch of big, long,
fun road races March - June would attract a ton of riders, and then
maybe some in late summer. Instead, it's the second week in May and
road season is pretty much over.

Thanks,
Joe King

Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tim Schauer wrote:
> As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
> weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
> and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
> year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
> popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
> past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:
>
>> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever remember.
>>
>> Candi
>>
>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen.  It seems like the State
>>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year.  Why not have them
>>> at the end of the season?  I remember when they were in August.  Why not
>>> August or even September?
>>>
>>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>>> compliment Nationals.  Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
>>> does it really matter?
>>>
>>> Our championships are about our State and its riders.  If the races were
>>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
>>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>>>_________________________
>>> Jon Nigbor
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>>>
>>> Men 4-5
>>>
>>> 1    5391    Lagerstrom    Eric    Athletes Lounge    Gresham
>>> 2    4348    DiMarco    David    SLOCUM Rebound Racing    Eugene
>>> 3    4380    Gibson    Nathan    0    Portland
>>> 4    5301    Nelson    Eric    Soraz Racing    Woodland
>>> 5    4308    Boerner    David    0    Fort Collins
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Brandon

Really what I think it comes down to is $4 a gallon on gas makes this hobby just that much more expensive and a solution to that is tough. Maybe a more organized ride share program?
What I wonder is why PDX proper does not have a stage race?

BM

On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:

> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have them
> at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why not
> August or even September?
>
> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
> compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
> does it really matter?
>
> Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races were
> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
> _________________________
> Jon Nigbor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>
> Men 4-5
>
> 1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
> 2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
> 3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
> 4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
> 5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
> 6 5109 Hawkyard Matt Bike Newport-Bier One Newport
> 7 4051 Neill Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Eugene
> 8 5540 Miller Dustin Capitol Velo Keizer
> 9 4375 Borum Jason Jens Voigt's Army Portland
> 10 8007 Artner Adam Cycle Analysis-Landshark Central
> Point
> 11 5212 Chow Alexander 0 Eugene
> 12 5887 Stevenson Luke #N/A Portland
> 13 5633 Knaus Tory 0 Portland
> 14 5649 Grummon Geoff PSIMET/Zilla Racing Portland
> 15 4466 Schiller Brian Guinness Cycling Team Portland
>
> 16 4136 Lin John Hammer Velo Portland
> 17 5194 Johnsen Nathan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 18 5119 Williams Steve Capitol Velo Salem
> 19 94 Zukowski Josiah #N/A 0
> 20 4366 Driscoll Kevin Presto Velo - Bicycle Attorney
> Portland
> 21 95 Sigurdson Brad #N/A Keizer
> 22 5369 Pan Dylan 0 Eugene
> 23 5388 Castelan Julio 0 Stayton
> 24 5089 Mabayoje Bukie 0 Hillsboro
> DNF 5522 R Magel Christopher Bike Newport-Bier One Newport 30
> DNF 4282 Smith Darren Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend 36
>
>
> Women 1-2
>
> 1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland
>
> 2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield
>
> 3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton
>
> 5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
> 6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
>
> 7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
> Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
> 8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
> 9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland
>
> 10 3219 Maguire Sarah Team Kenda p/b Geargrinder Portland
>
> 11 233 Simmons Mindy Portland
> 12 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
> Portland
> DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland
>
> DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
> DNS 209 Otero-Lopez Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
> Racing Team Bend
>
>
> Women 3
>
> 1 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Portland
> 2 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
> 3 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
> 4 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
> 5 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
> Oswego
> 6 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> 7 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S+M Portland
> DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
>
> Sr. Women-Combined
>
> 1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland
>
> 2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield
>
> 3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton
>
> 5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
> 6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
>
> 7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
> Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
> 8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
> 9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland
>
> 10 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Portland
> 11 3219 Maguire Sarah Portland
> 12 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
> 13 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
> 14 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
> 15 233 Simmons Mindy 0 Portland
> 16 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
> Portland
> 17 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
> Oswego
> 18 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> 19 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S & M Portland
> DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
> DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
> DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland
>
> DNS 209 Lopez-Otero Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
> Racing Team Bend
>
>
> Women 4
>
> 1 8050 Johannesen Annika Bend
> 2 7110 Burton Alexandra Upper Echelon Fitness Women's
> Cycling Portland
> 3 7143 Schultz Alexandria Unattached Portland
> 4 7031 Jilot Trish Sorella Forte Portland
> 5 7078 Clark Sandra Word-RCB Portland
> 6 7131 Miller Gabi Sorella Forte Tigard
> 7 97 Rappe Helen University of Oregon Cycling Club
> Portland
> 8 7029 Wohlert Karin Sorella Forte Portland
> DNF 7079 Cooper Catherine Portland
>
>
> Women Master 40+
>
> 1 7086 Jerko Christine Sorella Forte Portland
> 2 7090 Ralle Martina Sorella Forte Portland
>
>
> Pro 1-2
>
> 1 949 Gray Scott Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Bend
> 2 92 Peterson Kennett Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling
> Sherwood
> 3 875 English Rob Hutch's Eugene
> 4 801 Winn Brad Team S+M Portland
> 5 924 Gallant Brendon 0 Salem
> 6 102 Beardsley Steven Gentle Lovers Portland
> 7 800 Carlson Ryan Cyclepath Racing Portland
> 8 101 Liberles Joshua HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
> Portland
> 9 876 Bourcier Paul Hutch's-Eugene Eugene
> 10 928 Hansen Jake Word-RCB Portland
> 11 898 Boone Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Bend
> 12 187 King Joseph Guinness Cycling Team Portland
> 13 3199 McCoy jonathan Ironclad Performance Wear
> Portland
> 14 973 Edgerton Adam Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> 15 111 Romer Elijah Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 16 794 Palmer Michael Veloce Racing Portland
> 17 908 McCutcheon Connor #N/A Bend
> 18 91 Winter Zach Guinness Cycling Team Salem
> 19 128 Braun Mathew Team SCR/Kona Portland
> 20 141 Mittermann Galen HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
> Portland
> 21 883 Dubois Christopher Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> 22 942 Richardson Adrian Ruckus Test Team Portland
>
> 23 815 Heaberlin Cliff Guinness Cycling Team Portland
>
> 24 46 Marzullo Patrick Embrocation Cycling Portland
>
> 25 888 Hoefer Carl Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Portland ***Warning for Rider Misconduct***
> 26 3101 Laubernds William Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> DNF 966 Wells David Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> DNF 871 Blackwelder Mark Gentle Lovers Portland
> DNF 940 McAllister Garrett GrandStay Hotels Bend
> DNF 968 Emoff Brent Diamond Law Cycling Team Portland
>
> DNF 834 Willis Andrew Ironclad Performance Wear Vancouver
>
>
>
> Men Cat 3
>
> 1 328 Sherman David Bridgetown Velo Portland
> 2 4165 Shane Bennett Portland State University Portland
>
> 3 770 Miller Ryan Pacific Power Blue Sky Corvallis
> 4 4346 sampson mckenzie 0 Eugene
> 5 750 McDade Stephen Beaverton Bicycle Club tigard
> 6 3001 wentz alex Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 7 691 Kostur Phelan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> lake oswego
> 8 3109 Winans Chris Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Bend
> 9 3081 Clemens Alexander Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
> Brewing Portland
> 10 575 Bene Mike Yard Dawgs Book Club Portland
> 11 3037 Buchholz Cort Therapeutic Associates
> Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Milwaukie
> 12 3010 Fox Matt Swell Velo Bend
> 13 3190 Brody Ross Buy Local Cycling Salem
> 14 3123 Kroman Alex Portland Velo Portland
> 15 3203 Newman James 0 Portland
> 16 3132 Penner Daniel Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
>
> 17 3125 Owens Steve FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
> 18 766 Utz Andrew HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
> Portland
> 19 4276 Lang Timothy KWC-Tempo Portland
> 20 3093 Brown Jeff Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Lake Oswego
> 21 3076 Utz Zachary Ruckus Test Team Portland
> 22 8089 Sprague Cole Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
> 23 611 Brown Mike Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
> Cycles Bend
> 24 664 Walburn Brian Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling Issaquah
>
> 25 3137 Lightman Alex Guinness Cycling Team portland
>
> 26 3079 Pollock Jeffrey Portland Velo Portland
> 27 689 Cottle Brady #N/A Bend
> 28 594 Osgood Brayton Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
> 29 4209 Johnson Ben Portland Velo Portland
> 30 3127 Strode Zac Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> DQ 15.7.1 3113 Crouch Joel Ironclad Performance Wear
> Portland DQ per rule 15.7.1
> DNF 586 Feig Jason Portland Velo Clackamas
> DNF 3084 Ward Chris Guinness Cycling Team Corvallis
> DNF 3073 Ferron Joseph OSU Cycling Club Corvallis
> DNF 3077 Sheppard Mike 0 Portland
> DNF 3009 Dunn Jeff FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
> DNF 3094 Ratliff Brian Portland Velo Hillsboro
>
>
> Master Men 40+ Cat 3
>
> 1 624 Rogers Bruce Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
> 2 340 Magilner Mark Half Fast Velo SALEM
> 3 3138 Masuda David Team Bike Tires Direct Tigard
> 4 531 Albrow Richard Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 5 704 Babcock Ron Portland Velo Hillsboro
> 6 613 Fennerl Jurgen Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 7 538 Choltus Karl Harder Cycling Portland
> 8 3007 Blacklock Nick Team Bike Tires Direct Happy Valley
> ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
> 9 3071 Dirks Tony Mountain View Cycles Hood River
> 10 3008 Coca Tony Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Sandy
> 11 580 Goldstein Scott EWEB Windpower Eugene ***Warning
> for Centerline Violation***
> 12 706 Hittner Tim Veloforma Factory Team Bend
> 13 325 Goff Wade Half Fast Velo Sherwood
> DQ 15.7.1 90 Engel Matt Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
> Racing Team Bend DQ per rule 15.7.1
> DNF 3033 Cooper Michael 0 Portland
> DNF 618 Masessa Dave Flywheel Bicycle Solutions Medford
>
>
> Master Men 40+ Cat 4-5
>
> 1 4208 James Ken Bicycle Services Direct Wilsonville
> 2 4106 Prosser John Taleo Racing Hillsboro
> 3 4095 Girard Michael Portland Velo Portland
> 4 5183 Burrows Peter Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
> 5 4047 Boyle Wayne Pacific Power Blue Sky Portland
> 6 4052 Billingsley Kevin Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
>
> 7 4161 Spillman Erik Portland Velo Portland
> DQ 15.7.1 4325 Holmes Steve Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
> DQ per rule 15.7.1
> DNF 4082 Doughty David Portland Velo Beaverton
> DNF 4024 Kenlan Chuck Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
> DNF 4020 Lasala Matthew Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
> Bend
>
>
> Master Men 50+ Cat 3
>
> 1 596 O'Brien John West End Bikes/Specialized Ridgefield
>
> 2 3126 Slawta John Land Shark Talent
> 3 707 Long Steve 0 Milwaukie ***Warning for
> Centerline Violation***
> 4 509 Stone Cal Unattached Camas
>
>
> Master Men 50+ Cat 4-5
>
> 1 4036 Kenney John Mountain View Cycles Hood River
> 2 5108 Upton Rick Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
> 3 5336 ontkean mike 0 Camas
> 4 5699 Cortright Robert #N/A Salem
> 5 5215 Gornick Jon Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
> Portland
> 6 4211 O'Connell Kevin Hammer Velo Portland
> DNF 5484 Marks Tracy na Portland
>
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Joe King

My point is that racing as a whole would benefit if OBRA did set a schedule
for marquee events. They won't have to force them, just give the best dates
to the best promoters. Schedule the dates so that it makes sense in the
grand scheme of weather, travel and the race calendar.

It would be a change, but for the better.

Thanks
Joe King

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Mike Murray wrote:
> OBRA does participate in the scheduling of races. OBRA puts the race
organizers in contact with each other to negotiate dates, publicises a
schedule, hosts discussions such as this, etc. Ultimately organizers put on
the events. OBRA cannot force people to put on or not put on events. OBRA
cannot plan a schedule.
>
> Ultimately people vote with their entry fees. For years they have voted
for earlier races and for stage races. This year it appears the tide may be
turning.
>
> Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe King
> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:42:11
> To: Tim Schauer
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR
Saturday
>
> I've had a long simmering tangent about the state of road racing these
> days. So I might as well just put it all out here, and then shut up
> about it.
>
> First off, I really appreciate everyone who is working hard to put on
> road races and give us a ton of opportunities to race. Without all the
> promoters and officials and volunteers, I would just be riding around
> in the rain, probably alone.
>
> All of these opinions are from the view of a Cat1/2 road racer, with
> 6-7 years experience primarily in Oregon and Washington:
>
> - There are far more races to attend these days, especially stage
> races. When I started, Walla Walla would have been a few weeks ago,
> Columbia Plateau coming up. Mt Hood and Elkhorn in June and Cascade in
> July were the biggies (Willamette was before my time). Now we've got
> Cherry Blossom and WW done, Wenatchee was this weekend, Olympic Stage
> race coming up. Hood is earlier. Stage races pull from one-day events
> big time. It's easy to pass up a one-day if you're stage racing next
> week, or take week off after.
>
> - To be successful road races basically need three things: relatively
> easy to get to (~2hr. travel time for most), good prize list, good
> course/long race. If a race has all these things, it will do really
> well. When Piece of Cake was in Longview, there were fields of 80+
> from OR and WA, prize list was great, great racing even if the course
> was nothing special. If a $2,000 prize list doubles the size of the
> field, it's a net gain for the promoter.
>
> - Races now are SHORT. It's easier to stay home and do 70-80 miles
> than get in the car and drive to a race where you do 60 and maybe not
> even get a workout. Cat 1/2 road races should be 80+ miles.
>
> - The early racing is getting ridiculous. 1/2 the schedule is over by
> the middle of April. OBRA should participate in the scheduling of
> races. Model it after the classics, reserve maybe 2 weekends a month
> for the premiere events, then let the TT/crits fall in around that.
>
> Oregon could have a ton of premiere amateur road races that attract
> riders from all over the region. But it doesn't look like there a
> schedule is being planned to facilitate that. A bunch of big, long,
> fun road races March - June would attract a ton of riders, and then
> maybe some in late summer. Instead, it's the second week in May and
> road season is pretty much over.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe King
>
>
> Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tim Schauer
wrote:
>> As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
>> weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
>> and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
>> year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
>> popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
>> past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:
>>
>>> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever
remember.
>>>
>>> Candi
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor"
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
>>>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have
them
>>>> at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why
not
>>>> August or even September?
>>>>
>>>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>>>> compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for
Nationals so
>>>> does it really matter?
>>>>
>>>> Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races
were
>>>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate
and
>>>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>>>>_________________________
>>>> Jon Nigbor
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR
Saturday
>>>>
>>>> Men 4-5
>>>>
>>>> 1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
>>>> 2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
>>>> 3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
>>>> 4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
>>>> 5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
>>>_______________________________________________
>>> OBRA mailing list
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>>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Mike Murray

OBRA does participate in the scheduling of races. OBRA puts the race organizers in contact with each other to negotiate dates, publicises a schedule, hosts discussions such as this, etc. Ultimately organizers put on the events. OBRA cannot force people to put on or not put on events. OBRA cannot plan a schedule.

Ultimately people vote with their entry fees. For years they have voted for earlier races and for stage races. This year it appears the tide may be turning.

Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe King
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:42:11
To: Tim Schauer
Cc: OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

I've had a long simmering tangent about the state of road racing these
days. So I might as well just put it all out here, and then shut up
about it.

First off, I really appreciate everyone who is working hard to put on
road races and give us a ton of opportunities to race. Without all the
promoters and officials and volunteers, I would just be riding around
in the rain, probably alone.

All of these opinions are from the view of a Cat1/2 road racer, with
6-7 years experience primarily in Oregon and Washington:

- There are far more races to attend these days, especially stage
races. When I started, Walla Walla would have been a few weeks ago,
Columbia Plateau coming up. Mt Hood and Elkhorn in June and Cascade in
July were the biggies (Willamette was before my time). Now we've got
Cherry Blossom and WW done, Wenatchee was this weekend, Olympic Stage
race coming up. Hood is earlier. Stage races pull from one-day events
big time. It's easy to pass up a one-day if you're stage racing next
week, or take week off after.

- To be successful road races basically need three things: relatively
easy to get to (~2hr. travel time for most), good prize list, good
course/long race. If a race has all these things, it will do really
well. When Piece of Cake was in Longview, there were fields of 80+
from OR and WA, prize list was great, great racing even if the course
was nothing special. If a $2,000 prize list doubles the size of the
field, it's a net gain for the promoter.

- Races now are SHORT. It's easier to stay home and do 70-80 miles
than get in the car and drive to a race where you do 60 and maybe not
even get a workout. Cat 1/2 road races should be 80+ miles.

- The early racing is getting ridiculous. 1/2 the schedule is over by
the middle of April. OBRA should participate in the scheduling of
races. Model it after the classics, reserve maybe 2 weekends a month
for the premiere events, then let the TT/crits fall in around that.

Oregon could have a ton of premiere amateur road races that attract
riders from all over the region. But it doesn't look like there a
schedule is being planned to facilitate that. A bunch of big, long,
fun road races March - June would attract a ton of riders, and then
maybe some in late summer. Instead, it's the second week in May and
road season is pretty much over.

Thanks,
Joe King

Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tim Schauer wrote:
> As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
> weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
> and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
> year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
> popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
> past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:
>
>> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever remember.
>>
>> Candi
>>
>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen.  It seems like the State
>>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year.  Why not have them
>>> at the end of the season?  I remember when they were in August.  Why not
>>> August or even September?
>>>
>>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>>> compliment Nationals.  Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
>>> does it really matter?
>>>
>>> Our championships are about our State and its riders.  If the races were
>>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
>>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>>>_________________________
>>> Jon Nigbor
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>>>
>>> Men 4-5
>>>
>>> 1    5391    Lagerstrom    Eric    Athletes Lounge    Gresham
>>> 2    4348    DiMarco    David    SLOCUM Rebound Racing    Eugene
>>> 3    4380    Gibson    Nathan    0    Portland
>>> 4    5301    Nelson    Eric    Soraz Racing    Woodland
>>> 5    4308    Boerner    David    0    Fort Collins
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Joe King

I've had a long simmering tangent about the state of road racing these
days. So I might as well just put it all out here, and then shut up
about it.

First off, I really appreciate everyone who is working hard to put on
road races and give us a ton of opportunities to race. Without all the
promoters and officials and volunteers, I would just be riding around
in the rain, probably alone.

All of these opinions are from the view of a Cat1/2 road racer, with
6-7 years experience primarily in Oregon and Washington:

- There are far more races to attend these days, especially stage
races. When I started, Walla Walla would have been a few weeks ago,
Columbia Plateau coming up. Mt Hood and Elkhorn in June and Cascade in
July were the biggies (Willamette was before my time). Now we've got
Cherry Blossom and WW done, Wenatchee was this weekend, Olympic Stage
race coming up. Hood is earlier. Stage races pull from one-day events
big time. It's easy to pass up a one-day if you're stage racing next
week, or take week off after.

- To be successful road races basically need three things: relatively
easy to get to (~2hr. travel time for most), good prize list, good
course/long race. If a race has all these things, it will do really
well. When Piece of Cake was in Longview, there were fields of 80+
from OR and WA, prize list was great, great racing even if the course
was nothing special. If a $2,000 prize list doubles the size of the
field, it's a net gain for the promoter.

- Races now are SHORT. It's easier to stay home and do 70-80 miles
than get in the car and drive to a race where you do 60 and maybe not
even get a workout. Cat 1/2 road races should be 80+ miles.

- The early racing is getting ridiculous. 1/2 the schedule is over by
the middle of April. OBRA should participate in the scheduling of
races. Model it after the classics, reserve maybe 2 weekends a month
for the premiere events, then let the TT/crits fall in around that.

Oregon could have a ton of premiere amateur road races that attract
riders from all over the region. But it doesn't look like there a
schedule is being planned to facilitate that. A bunch of big, long,
fun road races March - June would attract a ton of riders, and then
maybe some in late summer. Instead, it's the second week in May and
road season is pretty much over.

Thanks,
Joe King

Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tim Schauer wrote:
> As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
> weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
> and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
> year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
> popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
> past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:
>
>> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever remember.
>>
>> Candi
>>
>> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen.  It seems like the State
>>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year.  Why not have them
>>> at the end of the season?  I remember when they were in August.  Why not
>>> August or even September?
>>>
>>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>>> compliment Nationals.  Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
>>> does it really matter?
>>>
>>> Our championships are about our State and its riders.  If the races were
>>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
>>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>>> _________________________
>>> Jon Nigbor
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>>>
>>> Men 4-5
>>>
>>> 1    5391    Lagerstrom    Eric    Athletes Lounge    Gresham
>>> 2    4348    DiMarco    David    SLOCUM Rebound Racing    Eugene
>>> 3    4380    Gibson    Nathan    0    Portland
>>> 4    5301    Nelson    Eric    Soraz Racing    Woodland
>>> 5    4308    Boerner    David    0    Fort Collins
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Mike Murray

The Road Race Championship is put on by different organizers each year in an effort to move them around geographically. Last year we specified a range of dates. This did not work out well from a participation or economic point of view. If people want to see the Road Race Championship or any of the other road or mtn bike champs to be located somewhere else either geographically or time of year the ONLY solution is to work to put the event on when and where you think would be best. The is no crew of helpful elves that will put on races for OBRA because we think that a specific time or location would be better.

Mike Murray - Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Jon Nigbor"
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:37:38
To:
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have them
at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why not
August or even September?

I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
does it really matter?

Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races were
later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
_________________________
Jon Nigbor

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

Men 4-5

1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
6 5109 Hawkyard Matt Bike Newport-Bier One Newport
7 4051 Neill Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Eugene
8 5540 Miller Dustin Capitol Velo Keizer
9 4375 Borum Jason Jens Voigt's Army Portland
10 8007 Artner Adam Cycle Analysis-Landshark Central
Point
11 5212 Chow Alexander 0 Eugene
12 5887 Stevenson Luke #N/A Portland
13 5633 Knaus Tory 0 Portland
14 5649 Grummon Geoff PSIMET/Zilla Racing Portland
15 4466 Schiller Brian Guinness Cycling Team Portland

16 4136 Lin John Hammer Velo Portland
17 5194 Johnsen Nathan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
18 5119 Williams Steve Capitol Velo Salem
19 94 Zukowski Josiah #N/A 0
20 4366 Driscoll Kevin Presto Velo - Bicycle Attorney
Portland
21 95 Sigurdson Brad #N/A Keizer
22 5369 Pan Dylan 0 Eugene
23 5388 Castelan Julio 0 Stayton
24 5089 Mabayoje Bukie 0 Hillsboro
DNF 5522 R Magel Christopher Bike Newport-Bier One Newport 30
DNF 4282 Smith Darren Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend 36


Women 1-2

1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland

2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield

3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton

5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland

7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland

10 3219 Maguire Sarah Team Kenda p/b Geargrinder Portland

11 233 Simmons Mindy Portland
12 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
Portland
DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland

DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
DNS 209 Otero-Lopez Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
Racing Team Bend


Women 3

1 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Portland
2 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
3 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
4 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
5 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
Oswego
6 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
7 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S+M Portland
DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie

Sr. Women-Combined

1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland

2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield

3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton

5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland

7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland

10 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Portland
11 3219 Maguire Sarah Portland
12 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
13 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
14 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
15 233 Simmons Mindy 0 Portland
16 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
Portland
17 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
Oswego
18 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
19 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S & M Portland
DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland

DNS 209 Lopez-Otero Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
Racing Team Bend


Women 4

1 8050 Johannesen Annika Bend
2 7110 Burton Alexandra Upper Echelon Fitness Women's
Cycling Portland
3 7143 Schultz Alexandria Unattached Portland
4 7031 Jilot Trish Sorella Forte Portland
5 7078 Clark Sandra Word-RCB Portland
6 7131 Miller Gabi Sorella Forte Tigard
7 97 Rappe Helen University of Oregon Cycling Club
Portland
8 7029 Wohlert Karin Sorella Forte Portland
DNF 7079 Cooper Catherine Portland


Women Master 40+

1 7086 Jerko Christine Sorella Forte Portland
2 7090 Ralle Martina Sorella Forte Portland


Pro 1-2

1 949 Gray Scott Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Bend
2 92 Peterson Kennett Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling
Sherwood
3 875 English Rob Hutch's  Eugene
4 801 Winn Brad Team S+M Portland
5 924 Gallant Brendon 0 Salem
6 102 Beardsley Steven Gentle Lovers Portland
7 800 Carlson Ryan Cyclepath Racing Portland
8 101 Liberles Joshua HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
Portland
9 876 Bourcier Paul Hutch's-Eugene Eugene
10 928 Hansen Jake Word-RCB Portland
11 898 Boone Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Bend
12 187 King Joseph Guinness Cycling Team Portland
13 3199 McCoy jonathan Ironclad Performance Wear
Portland
14 973 Edgerton Adam Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
15 111 Romer Elijah Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
16 794 Palmer Michael Veloce Racing Portland
17 908 McCutcheon Connor #N/A Bend
18 91 Winter Zach Guinness Cycling Team Salem
19 128 Braun Mathew Team SCR/Kona Portland
20 141 Mittermann Galen HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
Portland
21 883 Dubois Christopher Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
22 942 Richardson Adrian Ruckus Test Team Portland

23 815 Heaberlin Cliff Guinness Cycling Team Portland

24 46 Marzullo Patrick Embrocation Cycling Portland

25 888 Hoefer Carl Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Portland ***Warning for Rider Misconduct***
26 3101 Laubernds William Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
DNF 966 Wells David Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
DNF 871 Blackwelder Mark Gentle Lovers Portland
DNF 940 McAllister Garrett GrandStay Hotels Bend
DNF 968 Emoff Brent Diamond Law Cycling Team Portland

DNF 834 Willis Andrew Ironclad Performance Wear Vancouver

Men Cat 3

1 328 Sherman David Bridgetown Velo Portland
2 4165 Shane Bennett Portland State University Portland

3 770 Miller Ryan Pacific Power Blue Sky Corvallis
4 4346 sampson mckenzie 0 Eugene
5 750 McDade Stephen Beaverton Bicycle Club tigard
6 3001 wentz alex Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
7 691 Kostur Phelan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
lake oswego
8 3109 Winans Chris Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Bend
9 3081 Clemens Alexander Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
10 575 Bene Mike Yard Dawgs Book Club Portland
11 3037 Buchholz Cort Therapeutic Associates
Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Milwaukie
12 3010 Fox Matt Swell Velo Bend
13 3190 Brody Ross Buy Local Cycling Salem
14 3123 Kroman Alex Portland Velo Portland
15 3203 Newman James 0 Portland
16 3132 Penner Daniel Ironclad Performance Wear Portland

17 3125 Owens Steve FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
18 766 Utz Andrew HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
Portland
19 4276 Lang Timothy KWC-Tempo Portland
20 3093 Brown Jeff Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Lake Oswego
21 3076 Utz Zachary Ruckus Test Team Portland
22 8089 Sprague Cole Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend
23 611 Brown Mike Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Bend
24 664 Walburn Brian Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling Issaquah

25 3137 Lightman Alex Guinness Cycling Team portland

26 3079 Pollock Jeffrey Portland Velo Portland
27 689 Cottle Brady #N/A Bend
28 594 Osgood Brayton Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend
29 4209 Johnson Ben Portland Velo Portland
30 3127 Strode Zac Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
DQ 15.7.1 3113 Crouch Joel Ironclad Performance Wear
Portland DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 586 Feig Jason Portland Velo Clackamas
DNF 3084 Ward Chris Guinness Cycling Team Corvallis
DNF 3073 Ferron Joseph OSU Cycling Club Corvallis
DNF 3077 Sheppard Mike 0 Portland
DNF 3009 Dunn Jeff FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
DNF 3094 Ratliff Brian Portland Velo Hillsboro


Master Men 40+ Cat 3

1 624 Rogers Bruce Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
2 340 Magilner Mark Half Fast Velo SALEM
3 3138 Masuda David Team Bike Tires Direct Tigard
4 531 Albrow Richard Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
5 704 Babcock Ron Portland Velo Hillsboro
6 613 Fennerl Jurgen Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
7 538 Choltus Karl Harder Cycling Portland
8 3007 Blacklock Nick Team Bike Tires Direct Happy Valley
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
9 3071 Dirks Tony Mountain View Cycles Hood River
10 3008 Coca Tony Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Sandy
11 580 Goldstein Scott EWEB Windpower Eugene ***Warning
for Centerline Violation***
12 706 Hittner Tim Veloforma Factory Team Bend
13 325 Goff Wade Half Fast Velo Sherwood
DQ 15.7.1 90 Engel Matt Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
Racing Team Bend DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 3033 Cooper Michael 0 Portland
DNF 618 Masessa Dave Flywheel Bicycle Solutions Medford


Master Men 40+ Cat 4-5

1 4208 James Ken Bicycle Services Direct Wilsonville
2 4106 Prosser John Taleo Racing Hillsboro
3 4095 Girard Michael Portland Velo Portland
4 5183 Burrows Peter Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
5 4047 Boyle Wayne Pacific Power Blue Sky Portland
6 4052 Billingsley Kevin Team Bike Tires Direct Portland

7 4161 Spillman Erik Portland Velo Portland
DQ 15.7.1 4325 Holmes Steve Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 4082 Doughty David Portland Velo Beaverton
DNF 4024 Kenlan Chuck Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend
DNF 4020 Lasala Matthew Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend


Master Men 50+ Cat 3

1 596 O'Brien John West End Bikes/Specialized Ridgefield

2 3126 Slawta John Land Shark Talent
3 707 Long Steve 0 Milwaukie ***Warning for
Centerline Violation***
4 509 Stone Cal Unattached Camas


Master Men 50+ Cat 4-5

1 4036 Kenney John Mountain View Cycles Hood River
2 5108 Upton Rick Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
3 5336 ontkean mike 0 Camas
4 5699 Cortright Robert #N/A Salem
5 5215 Gornick Jon Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
6 4211 O'Connell Kevin Hammer Velo Portland
DNF 5484 Marks Tracy na Portland

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Tim Schauer

As per the survey results Kenji published, I think the extended crummy
weather this spring has hampered many OBRA-ites enthusiasm for racing
and training. This seems to have impacted many events attendance this
year. Also, it is my perception that mountain bike's increased
popularity and cross racing's extended season has eroded some of the
past reliable enthusiasm for all things skinny tire (road, crit, TT).

Sent from my mobile device

On May 15, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Candi Murray wrote:

> They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever remember.
>
> Candi
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:
>
>> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
>> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have them
>> at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why not
>> August or even September?
>>
>> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
>> compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
>> does it really matter?
>>
>> Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races were
>> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
>> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
>> _________________________
>> Jon Nigbor
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>>
>> Men 4-5
>>
>> 1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
>> 2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
>> 3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
>> 4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
>> 5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
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Candi Murray

They were in August last year. That was the lowest turnout I ever remember.

Candi

On May 15, 2011, at 10:37 AM, "Jon Nigbor" wrote:

> Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
> Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have them
> at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why not
> August or even September?
>
> I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
> compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
> does it really matter?
>
> Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races were
> later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
> enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
> _________________________
> Jon Nigbor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday
>
> Men 4-5
>
> 1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
> 2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
> 3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
> 4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
> 5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins

Jon Nigbor

Looks like the lowest turnout I've ever seen. It seems like the State
Championships keep moving up and are earlier every year. Why not have them
at the end of the season? I remember when they were in August. Why not
August or even September?

I've hear arguments that the championships are this early to better
compliment Nationals. Our championships are not qualifiers for Nationals so
does it really matter?

Our championships are about our State and its riders. If the races were
later in the year more people would have a chance to train, participate and
enjoy the opportunity to be contenders for the State crown.
_________________________
Jon Nigbor

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Andrea Fisk
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:25 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] RESULTS - OBRA Championships / Silverton RR Saturday

Men 4-5

1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
6 5109 Hawkyard Matt Bike Newport-Bier One Newport
7 4051 Neill Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Eugene
8 5540 Miller Dustin Capitol Velo Keizer
9 4375 Borum Jason Jens Voigt's Army Portland
10 8007 Artner Adam Cycle Analysis-Landshark Central
Point
11 5212 Chow Alexander 0 Eugene
12 5887 Stevenson Luke #N/A Portland
13 5633 Knaus Tory 0 Portland
14 5649 Grummon Geoff PSIMET/Zilla Racing Portland
15 4466 Schiller Brian Guinness Cycling Team Portland

16 4136 Lin John Hammer Velo Portland
17 5194 Johnsen Nathan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
18 5119 Williams Steve Capitol Velo Salem
19 94 Zukowski Josiah #N/A 0
20 4366 Driscoll Kevin Presto Velo - Bicycle Attorney
Portland
21 95 Sigurdson Brad #N/A Keizer
22 5369 Pan Dylan 0 Eugene
23 5388 Castelan Julio 0 Stayton
24 5089 Mabayoje Bukie 0 Hillsboro
DNF 5522 R Magel Christopher Bike Newport-Bier One Newport 30
DNF 4282 Smith Darren Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend 36


Women 1-2

1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland

2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield

3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton

5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland

7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland

10 3219 Maguire Sarah Team Kenda p/b Geargrinder Portland

11 233 Simmons Mindy Portland
12 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
Portland
DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland

DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
DNS 209 Otero-Lopez Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
Racing Team Bend


Women 3

1 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Portland
2 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
3 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
4 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
5 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
Oswego
6 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
7 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S+M Portland
DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie

Sr. Women-Combined

1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland

2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield

3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton

5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland

7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates
Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland

10 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Portland
11 3219 Maguire Sarah Portland
12 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
13 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
14 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
15 233 Simmons Mindy 0 Portland
16 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling
Portland
17 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake
Oswego
18 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
19 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S & M Portland
DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland

DNS 209 Lopez-Otero Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
Racing Team Bend


Women 4

1 8050 Johannesen Annika Bend
2 7110 Burton Alexandra Upper Echelon Fitness Women's
Cycling Portland
3 7143 Schultz Alexandria Unattached Portland
4 7031 Jilot Trish Sorella Forte Portland
5 7078 Clark Sandra Word-RCB Portland
6 7131 Miller Gabi Sorella Forte Tigard
7 97 Rappe Helen University of Oregon Cycling Club
Portland
8 7029 Wohlert Karin Sorella Forte Portland
DNF 7079 Cooper Catherine Portland


Women Master 40+

1 7086 Jerko Christine Sorella Forte Portland
2 7090 Ralle Martina Sorella Forte Portland


Pro 1-2

1 949 Gray Scott Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Bend
2 92 Peterson Kennett Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling
Sherwood
3 875 English Rob Hutch's  Eugene
4 801 Winn Brad Team S+M Portland
5 924 Gallant Brendon 0 Salem
6 102 Beardsley Steven Gentle Lovers Portland
7 800 Carlson Ryan Cyclepath Racing Portland
8 101 Liberles Joshua HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
Portland
9 876 Bourcier Paul Hutch's-Eugene Eugene
10 928 Hansen Jake Word-RCB Portland
11 898 Boone Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Bend
12 187 King Joseph Guinness Cycling Team Portland
13 3199 McCoy jonathan Ironclad Performance Wear
Portland
14 973 Edgerton Adam Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
15 111 Romer Elijah Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
16 794 Palmer Michael Veloce Racing Portland
17 908 McCutcheon Connor #N/A Bend
18 91 Winter Zach Guinness Cycling Team Salem
19 128 Braun Mathew Team SCR/Kona Portland
20 141 Mittermann Galen HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
Portland
21 883 Dubois Christopher Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
22 942 Richardson Adrian Ruckus Test Team Portland

23 815 Heaberlin Cliff Guinness Cycling Team Portland

24 46 Marzullo Patrick Embrocation Cycling Portland

25 888 Hoefer Carl Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Portland ***Warning for Rider Misconduct***
26 3101 Laubernds William Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
DNF 966 Wells David Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
DNF 871 Blackwelder Mark Gentle Lovers Portland
DNF 940 McAllister Garrett GrandStay Hotels Bend
DNF 968 Emoff Brent Diamond Law Cycling Team Portland

DNF 834 Willis Andrew Ironclad Performance Wear Vancouver

Men Cat 3

1 328 Sherman David Bridgetown Velo Portland
2 4165 Shane Bennett Portland State University Portland

3 770 Miller Ryan Pacific Power Blue Sky Corvallis
4 4346 sampson mckenzie 0 Eugene
5 750 McDade Stephen Beaverton Bicycle Club tigard
6 3001 wentz alex Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
7 691 Kostur Phelan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
lake oswego
8 3109 Winans Chris Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Bend
9 3081 Clemens Alexander Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood
Brewing Portland
10 575 Bene Mike Yard Dawgs Book Club Portland
11 3037 Buchholz Cort Therapeutic Associates
Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Milwaukie
12 3010 Fox Matt Swell Velo Bend
13 3190 Brody Ross Buy Local Cycling Salem
14 3123 Kroman Alex Portland Velo Portland
15 3203 Newman James 0 Portland
16 3132 Penner Daniel Ironclad Performance Wear Portland

17 3125 Owens Steve FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
18 766 Utz Andrew HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning
Portland
19 4276 Lang Timothy KWC-Tempo Portland
20 3093 Brown Jeff Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Lake Oswego
21 3076 Utz Zachary Ruckus Test Team Portland
22 8089 Sprague Cole Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend
23 611 Brown Mike Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush
Cycles Bend
24 664 Walburn Brian Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling Issaquah

25 3137 Lightman Alex Guinness Cycling Team portland

26 3079 Pollock Jeffrey Portland Velo Portland
27 689 Cottle Brady #N/A Bend
28 594 Osgood Brayton Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend
29 4209 Johnson Ben Portland Velo Portland
30 3127 Strode Zac Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
DQ 15.7.1 3113 Crouch Joel Ironclad Performance Wear
Portland DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 586 Feig Jason Portland Velo Clackamas
DNF 3084 Ward Chris Guinness Cycling Team Corvallis
DNF 3073 Ferron Joseph OSU Cycling Club Corvallis
DNF 3077 Sheppard Mike 0 Portland
DNF 3009 Dunn Jeff FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
DNF 3094 Ratliff Brian Portland Velo Hillsboro


Master Men 40+ Cat 3

1 624 Rogers Bruce Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
2 340 Magilner Mark Half Fast Velo SALEM
3 3138 Masuda David Team Bike Tires Direct Tigard
4 531 Albrow Richard Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
5 704 Babcock Ron Portland Velo Hillsboro
6 613 Fennerl Jurgen Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
7 538 Choltus Karl Harder Cycling Portland
8 3007 Blacklock Nick Team Bike Tires Direct Happy Valley
***Warning for Centerline Violation***
9 3071 Dirks Tony Mountain View Cycles Hood River
10 3008 Coca Tony Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Sandy
11 580 Goldstein Scott EWEB Windpower Eugene ***Warning
for Centerline Violation***
12 706 Hittner Tim Veloforma Factory Team Bend
13 325 Goff Wade Half Fast Velo Sherwood
DQ 15.7.1 90 Engel Matt Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care
Racing Team Bend DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 3033 Cooper Michael 0 Portland
DNF 618 Masessa Dave Flywheel Bicycle Solutions Medford


Master Men 40+ Cat 4-5

1 4208 James Ken Bicycle Services Direct Wilsonville
2 4106 Prosser John Taleo Racing Hillsboro
3 4095 Girard Michael Portland Velo Portland
4 5183 Burrows Peter Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
5 4047 Boyle Wayne Pacific Power Blue Sky Portland
6 4052 Billingsley Kevin Team Bike Tires Direct Portland

7 4161 Spillman Erik Portland Velo Portland
DQ 15.7.1 4325 Holmes Steve Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 4082 Doughty David Portland Velo Beaverton
DNF 4024 Kenlan Chuck Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend
DNF 4020 Lasala Matthew Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team
Bend


Master Men 50+ Cat 3

1 596 O'Brien John West End Bikes/Specialized Ridgefield

2 3126 Slawta John Land Shark Talent
3 707 Long Steve 0 Milwaukie ***Warning for
Centerline Violation***
4 509 Stone Cal Unattached Camas


Master Men 50+ Cat 4-5

1 4036 Kenney John Mountain View Cycles Hood River
2 5108 Upton Rick Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
3 5336 ontkean mike 0 Camas
4 5699 Cortright Robert #N/A Salem
5 5215 Gornick Jon Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing
Portland
6 4211 O'Connell Kevin Hammer Velo Portland
DNF 5484 Marks Tracy na Portland

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Men 4-5

1 5391 Lagerstrom Eric Athletes Lounge Gresham
2 4348 DiMarco David SLOCUM Rebound Racing Eugene
3 4380 Gibson Nathan 0 Portland
4 5301 Nelson Eric Soraz Racing Woodland
5 4308 Boerner David 0 Fort Collins
6 5109 Hawkyard Matt Bike Newport-Bier One Newport
7 4051 Neill Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Eugene
8 5540 Miller Dustin Capitol Velo Keizer
9 4375 Borum Jason Jens Voigt's Army Portland
10 8007 Artner Adam Cycle Analysis-Landshark Central Point
11 5212 Chow Alexander 0 Eugene
12 5887 Stevenson Luke #N/A Portland
13 5633 Knaus Tory 0 Portland
14 5649 Grummon Geoff PSIMET/Zilla Racing Portland
15 4466 Schiller Brian Guinness Cycling Team Portland
16 4136 Lin John Hammer Velo Portland
17 5194 Johnsen Nathan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
18 5119 Williams Steve Capitol Velo Salem
19 94 Zukowski Josiah #N/A 0
20 4366 Driscoll Kevin Presto Velo - Bicycle Attorney Portland
21 95 Sigurdson Brad #N/A Keizer
22 5369 Pan Dylan 0 Eugene
23 5388 Castelan Julio 0 Stayton
24 5089 Mabayoje Bukie 0 Hillsboro
DNF 5522 R Magel Christopher Bike Newport-Bier One Newport 30
DNF 4282 Smith Darren Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend 36


Women 1-2

1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland
2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield
3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton
5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland
10 3219 Maguire Sarah Team Kenda p/b Geargrinder Portland
11 233 Simmons Mindy Portland
12 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling Portland
DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland
DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
DNS 209 Otero-Lopez Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend


Women 3

1 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
2 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
3 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
4 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
5 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake Oswego
6 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
7 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S+M Portland
DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie

Sr. Women-Combined

1 480 Davis Usher Anne Upper Echelon Fitness Portland
2 206 Turnbull Lisa REP Gym/Riverstone Springfield
3 250 Billington Hilary Hammer Nutrition Portland ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 499 Walle Brianna Ironclad Performance Wear Beaverton
5 231 Slawta Jenny Land Shark Talent
6 208 Whitley Anona Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
7 418 Fletcher Sara Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
8 226 Akeroyd Jen Sorella Forte Salem
9 239 Campbell Amy River City Bicycles Portland
10 262 Kaplan Jessica Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland
11 3219 Maguire Sarah Portland
12 266 Tisdale Sarah Sorella Forte Hillsboro
13 289 Charbonneau Emily 0 Portland
14 7176 lewellen cindy 0 Portland
15 233 Simmons Mindy 0 Portland
16 408 Huggins Elise Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling Portland
17 286 Cunha Michelle Ironclad Performance Wear Lake Oswego
18 414 Osborn Maire Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
19 473 Blomberg Mielle Team S & M Portland
DNF 254 Moss Jan Sorella Forte Milwaukie
DNF 214 Fox Lindsay Athletes Lounge Beaverton
DNF 486 Peithman Susan VEF Women's Racing Portland
DNS 209 Lopez-Otero Brenna Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend


Women 4

1 8050 Johannesen Annika Bend
2 7110 Burton Alexandra Upper Echelon Fitness Women's Cycling Portland
3 7143 Schultz Alexandria Unattached Portland
4 7031 Jilot Trish Sorella Forte Portland
5 7078 Clark Sandra Word-RCB Portland
6 7131 Miller Gabi Sorella Forte Tigard
7 97 Rappe Helen University of Oregon Cycling Club Portland
8 7029 Wohlert Karin Sorella Forte Portland
DNF 7079 Cooper Catherine Portland


Women Master 40+

1 7086 Jerko Christine Sorella Forte Portland
2 7090 Ralle Martina Sorella Forte Portland


Pro 1-2

1 949 Gray Scott Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Bend
2 92 Peterson Kennett Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling Sherwood
3 875 English Rob Hutch's  Eugene
4 801 Winn Brad Team S+M Portland
5 924 Gallant Brendon 0 Salem
6 102 Beardsley Steven Gentle Lovers Portland
7 800 Carlson Ryan Cyclepath Racing Portland
8 101 Liberles Joshua HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning Portland
9 876 Bourcier Paul Hutch's-Eugene Eugene
10 928 Hansen Jake Word-RCB Portland
11 898 Boone Andrew Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Bend
12 187 King Joseph Guinness Cycling Team Portland
13 3199 McCoy jonathan Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
14 973 Edgerton Adam Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
15 111 Romer Elijah Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
16 794 Palmer Michael Veloce Racing Portland
17 908 McCutcheon Connor #N/A Bend
18 91 Winter Zach Guinness Cycling Team Salem
19 128 Braun Mathew Team SCR/Kona Portland
20 141 Mittermann Galen HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning Portland
21 883 Dubois Christopher Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
22 942 Richardson Adrian Ruckus Test Team Portland
23 815 Heaberlin Cliff Guinness Cycling Team Portland
24 46 Marzullo Patrick Embrocation Cycling Portland
25 888 Hoefer Carl Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Portland ***Warning for Rider Misconduct***
26 3101 Laubernds William Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
DNF 966 Wells David Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
DNF 871 Blackwelder Mark Gentle Lovers Portland
DNF 940 McAllister Garrett GrandStay Hotels Bend
DNF 968 Emoff Brent Diamond Law Cycling Team Portland
DNF 834 Willis Andrew Ironclad Performance Wear Vancouver


Men Cat 3

1 328 Sherman David Bridgetown Velo Portland
2 4165 Shane Bennett Portland State University Portland
3 770 Miller Ryan Pacific Power Blue Sky Corvallis
4 4346 sampson mckenzie 0 Eugene
5 750 McDade Stephen Beaverton Bicycle Club tigard
6 3001 wentz alex Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
7 691 Kostur Phelan Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing lake oswego
8 3109 Winans Chris Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Bend
9 3081 Clemens Alexander Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
10 575 Bene Mike Yard Dawgs Book Club Portland
11 3037 Buchholz Cort Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Milwaukie
12 3010 Fox Matt Swell Velo Bend
13 3190 Brody Ross Buy Local Cycling Salem
14 3123 Kroman Alex Portland Velo Portland
15 3203 Newman James 0 Portland
16 3132 Penner Daniel Ironclad Performance Wear Portland
17 3125 Owens Steve FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
18 766 Utz Andrew HPChiro/Alpine Mortgage Planning Portland
19 4276 Lang Timothy KWC-Tempo Portland
20 3093 Brown Jeff Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Lake Oswego
21 3076 Utz Zachary Ruckus Test Team Portland
22 8089 Sprague Cole Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend
23 611 Brown Mike Therapeutic Associates Cycling/Sagebrush Cycles Bend
24 664 Walburn Brian Hagens-Berman LLP Cycling Issaquah
25 3137 Lightman Alex Guinness Cycling Team portland
26 3079 Pollock Jeffrey Portland Velo Portland
27 689 Cottle Brady #N/A Bend
28 594 Osgood Brayton Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend
29 4209 Johnson Ben Portland Velo Portland
30 3127 Strode Zac Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
DQ 15.7.1 3113 Crouch Joel Ironclad Performance Wear Portland DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 586 Feig Jason Portland Velo Clackamas
DNF 3084 Ward Chris Guinness Cycling Team Corvallis
DNF 3073 Ferron Joseph OSU Cycling Club Corvallis
DNF 3077 Sheppard Mike 0 Portland
DNF 3009 Dunn Jeff FareStart p/b Cobalt Mortgage Seattle
DNF 3094 Ratliff Brian Portland Velo Hillsboro


Master Men 40+ Cat 3

1 624 Rogers Bruce Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend
2 340 Magilner Mark Half Fast Velo SALEM
3 3138 Masuda David Team Bike Tires Direct Tigard
4 531 Albrow Richard Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
5 704 Babcock Ron Portland Velo Hillsboro
6 613 Fennerl Jurgen Hutch's/Bend Dental/Lowes Bend ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
7 538 Choltus Karl Harder Cycling Portland
8 3007 Blacklock Nick Team Bike Tires Direct Happy Valley ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
9 3071 Dirks Tony Mountain View Cycles Hood River
10 3008 Coca Tony Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Sandy
11 580 Goldstein Scott EWEB Windpower Eugene ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
12 706 Hittner Tim Veloforma Factory Team Bend
13 325 Goff Wade Half Fast Velo Sherwood
DQ 15.7.1 90 Engel Matt Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 3033 Cooper Michael 0 Portland
DNF 618 Masessa Dave Flywheel Bicycle Solutions Medford


Master Men 40+ Cat 4-5

1 4208 James Ken Bicycle Services Direct Wilsonville
2 4106 Prosser John Taleo Racing Hillsboro
3 4095 Girard Michael Portland Velo Portland
4 5183 Burrows Peter Life Cycle Bike Shop Eugene
5 4047 Boyle Wayne Pacific Power Blue Sky Portland
6 4052 Billingsley Kevin Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
7 4161 Spillman Erik Portland Velo Portland
DQ 15.7.1 4325 Holmes Steve Team Bike Tires Direct Portland DQ per rule 15.7.1
DNF 4082 Doughty David Portland Velo Beaverton
DNF 4024 Kenlan Chuck Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend
DNF 4020 Lasala Matthew Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team Bend


Master Men 50+ Cat 3

1 596 O'Brien John West End Bikes/Specialized Ridgefield
2 3126 Slawta John Land Shark Talent
3 707 Long Steve 0 Milwaukie ***Warning for Centerline Violation***
4 509 Stone Cal Unattached Camas


Master Men 50+ Cat 4-5

1 4036 Kenney John Mountain View Cycles Hood River
2 5108 Upton Rick Team Bike Tires Direct Portland
3 5336 ontkean mike 0 Camas
4 5699 Cortright Robert #N/A Salem
5 5215 Gornick Jon Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing Portland
6 4211 O'Connell Kevin Hammer Velo Portland
DNF 5484 Marks Tracy na Portland