John Fortes

Yall are the best!
Thanks for all the great information. It looks like I have some really good
leads on a camera. It is getting gorgeous down here in the MWV!

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:

>
> John,
>
> I have an old Pentax Optio W, which is waterproof and shock proof. It's
> about the size of an altoids can - in fact, they used that as a marketing
> gimmick. The concept was great ... but the thing took absolutely miserable
> pictures - everything was blurry, even if I set it on a rock. I'm not sure
> if they have a newer model that may have fixed the image issues? Worth a
> look...
>
> ~~shane
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Susan Otcenas wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-TS2-Waterproof-Stabilized-2-7-Inch/d
>> p/B003960F7K
>>
>> Panasonic Lumix Waterproof DMC-TS2. It's *really really* waterproof,
>> as in I've taken it snorkeling. I take it on rainy randonneuring rides
>> all the time, worry-free. Waterproof means sweatproof too, so I often
>> toss it into my back pocket on hot days too. They bill it as
>> shock-proof, which is one of the reasons I bought it. I'm a klutz.
>> I've dropped it a bunch of times without any trouble. It comes with a
>> rubbery housing that you can slip over it for even more shock proofing.
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Fortes
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:04 AM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
>>
>> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I have had
>> a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am thinking of
>> getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket. My SLR
>> just won't cut it for bike rides. Does anyone have good experience with
>> a camera that you would recommend.
>>
>> Thanks OBRA.
>>
>> -
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Shane Gibson

John,

I have an old Pentax Optio W, which is waterproof and shock proof. It's
about the size of an altoids can - in fact, they used that as a marketing
gimmick. The concept was great ... but the thing took absolutely miserable
pictures - everything was blurry, even if I set it on a rock. I'm not sure
if they have a newer model that may have fixed the image issues? Worth a
look...

~~shane

--
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Susan Otcenas wrote:

>
> http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-TS2-Waterproof-Stabilized-2-7-Inch/d
> p/B003960F7K
>
> Panasonic Lumix Waterproof DMC-TS2. It's *really really* waterproof,
> as in I've taken it snorkeling. I take it on rainy randonneuring rides
> all the time, worry-free. Waterproof means sweatproof too, so I often
> toss it into my back pocket on hot days too. They bill it as
> shock-proof, which is one of the reasons I bought it. I'm a klutz.
> I've dropped it a bunch of times without any trouble. It comes with a
> rubbery housing that you can slip over it for even more shock proofing.
>
> Susan
>
>
> ***********************************************
> Susan Otcenas
> Team Estrogen, Inc.
> www.TeamEstrogen.com
> 877-310-4592
> ***********************************************
> Follow our TE fan page on Facebook!
> Look for "teamestrogen.com"
> ***********************************************
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John Fortes
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:04 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
>
> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I have had
> a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am thinking of
> getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket. My SLR
> just won't cut it for bike rides. Does anyone have good experience with
> a camera that you would recommend.
>
> Thanks OBRA.
>
> -
>
> John P. Fortes
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Susan Otcenas

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-TS2-Waterproof-Stabilized-2-7-Inch/d
p/B003960F7K

Panasonic Lumix Waterproof DMC-TS2. It's *really really* waterproof,
as in I've taken it snorkeling. I take it on rainy randonneuring rides
all the time, worry-free. Waterproof means sweatproof too, so I often
toss it into my back pocket on hot days too. They bill it as
shock-proof, which is one of the reasons I bought it. I'm a klutz.
I've dropped it a bunch of times without any trouble. It comes with a
rubbery housing that you can slip over it for even more shock proofing.

Susan

***********************************************
Susan Otcenas
Team Estrogen, Inc.
www.TeamEstrogen.com
877-310-4592
***********************************************
Follow our TE fan page on Facebook!
Look for "teamestrogen.com"
***********************************************

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Behalf Of John Fortes
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:04 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question

Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I have had
a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am thinking of
getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket. My SLR
just won't cut it for bike rides. Does anyone have good experience with
a camera that you would recommend.

Thanks OBRA.

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Rick Johnson

I might argue that point as being a matter of preference. I haven't used
a see-thru view finder in years. I mostly just have a good feel for
image center for the common holds I use with a particular camera.
The digital age, with it's pixel count overkill and wide field-of-view
options, has made post process cropping quick and easy. In other words,
having the perfect framing is much less important these days.

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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On 5/19/2011 8:13 AM, Einar Traa wrote:
> I often use a similar lanyard setup to take pictures while riding.
> You want a camera with see-thru view finder and one hand operation.
> Most recent point-and-shoots don't have see-thru view finder, but
> there are still a few. I have a Canon a1100is which is out of
> production, but I think there is an a1200is with see- thru view finder.
>
> --- On *Thu, 5/19/11, Rick Johnson //* wrote:
>
>
> From: Rick Johnson
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
> To: melissafroggie@gmail.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 7:58 AM
>
> Melissa,
> The fundamentals of video capture are the same for stills, video
> just process and stores images faster and in larger volume. That
> means from the design side they are the same type of system so
> companies are effectively paying to engineer both at the same time
> . And since in mounted image capture systems most people want
> video so that is what is marketed.
>
> Most (good) video setups have still frame options, it's just a
> matter of setting the video system to operate in a single frame
> mode. Remotes are also common, both wired and wireless. Image
> quality, focus and field-of-view angle is what is usually
> compromised in mounted systems.
>
> Perhaps you might get better results with your point-and-shoot if
> you had a more convenient way to carry and draw it. I rig my
> camera with a 4mm shock cord lanyard and a mini carbiner. I clip
> the carbiner to something near my mid torso (bib shoulder strap or
> pack strap). The lanyard gives me something to pull the camera out
> with and prevents me from dropping it. In the case of using a pack
> I attach a small neoprene cell phone pouch to the belt. It has a
> single buckle cover that I only have to pinch to release.
> I most situations I can get my first shot in about two seconds and
> in some situations I can be shooting pictures before I even come
> to a stop.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
> * * *
>
> Liberal intercourse - founding father approved since 1796
>
>
>
> On 5/19/2011 7:29 AM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
>> I am interested in a helmet cam or chest/harness mount camera
>> that will either take still photos on an ongoing basis (like one
>> per minute) or triggered with a bar-mounted remote. Any
>> suggestions? I don't want video.
>>
>> Though I have carried a small point/shoot, the effort of stopping
>> to pull it out (esp. when riding with a group) causes me to miss
>> most of the really good shots.
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:14 AM, > > wrote:
>>
>> I've thought about waterproof camera, but the only place I'd
>> use it is on my rides, so instead of spending the extra money
>> on a waterproof camera, I put both my phone and small point
>> and shoot camera in a sandwich bag.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Fortes" > >
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:03:50 AM
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
>>
>> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides?
>> I have had a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently.
>> I am thinking of getting a waterproof camera that can fit in
>> my jersey pocket. My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides.
>> Does anyone have good experience with a camera that you
>> would recommend.
>>
>> Thanks OBRA.
>>
>> -
>>
>> John P. Fortes
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Einar Traa

I often use a similar lanyard setup to take pictures while riding.  You want a camera with see-thru view finder and one hand operation.   Most recent point-and-shoots don't have see-thru view finder, but there are still a few.  I have a Canon a1100is which is out of production, but I think there is an a1200is with see- thru view finder.

--- On Thu, 5/19/11, Rick Johnson wrote:

From: Rick Johnson
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
To: melissafroggie@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 7:58 AM

Melissa,

The fundamentals of video capture are the same for stills, video
just process and stores images faster and in larger volume. That
means from the design side they are the same type of system so
companies are effectively paying to engineer both at the same time .
And since in mounted image capture systems most people want video so
that is what is marketed.

Most (good) video setups have still frame options, it's just a
matter of setting the video system to operate in a single frame
mode. Remotes are also common, both wired and wireless. Image
quality, focus and field-of-view angle is what is usually
compromised in mounted systems.

Perhaps you might get better results with your point-and-shoot if
you had a more convenient way to carry and draw it. I rig my camera
with a 4mm shock cord lanyard and a mini carbiner. I clip the
carbiner to something near my mid torso (bib shoulder strap or pack
strap). The lanyard gives me something to pull the camera out with
and prevents me from dropping it. In the case of using a pack I
attach a small neoprene cell phone pouch to the belt. It has a
single buckle cover that I only have to pinch to release.

I most situations I can get my first shot in about two seconds and
in some situations I can be shooting pictures before I even come to
a stop.

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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On 5/19/2011 7:29 AM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
I am interested in a helmet cam or chest/harness mount
camera that will either take still photos on an ongoing basis
(like one per minute) or triggered with a bar-mounted remote. Any
suggestions? I don't want video.

Though I have carried a small point/shoot, the effort of stopping
to pull it out (esp. when riding with a group) causes me to miss
most of the really good shots.

Melissa

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:14 AM,
wrote:

I've thought about waterproof camera, but the only
place I'd use it is on my rides, so instead of spending
the extra money on a waterproof camera, I put both my
phone and small point and shoot camera in a sandwich
bag.


 

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From: "John Fortes"

To: obra@list.obra.org

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:03:50 AM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides
question

Does anyone take a camera with them on their
training rides?  I have had a bunch of awesome photo
opportunities recently.  I am thinking of getting a
waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket.
 My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides.  Does
anyone have good experience with a camera that you
would recommend.

Thanks OBRA.

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Melissa,
The fundamentals of video capture are the same for stills, video just
process and stores images faster and in larger volume. That means from
the design side they are the same type of system so companies are
effectively paying to engineer both at the same time . And since in
mounted image capture systems most people want video so that is what is
marketed.

Most (good) video setups have still frame options, it's just a matter of
setting the video system to operate in a single frame mode. Remotes are
also common, both wired and wireless. Image quality, focus and
field-of-view angle is what is usually compromised in mounted systems.

Perhaps you might get better results with your point-and-shoot if you
had a more convenient way to carry and draw it. I rig my camera with a
4mm shock cord lanyard and a mini carbiner. I clip the carbiner to
something near my mid torso (bib shoulder strap or pack strap). The
lanyard gives me something to pull the camera out with and prevents me
from dropping it. In the case of using a pack I attach a small neoprene
cell phone pouch to the belt. It has a single buckle cover that I only
have to pinch to release.
I most situations I can get my first shot in about two seconds and in
some situations I can be shooting pictures before I even come to a stop.

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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On 5/19/2011 7:29 AM, Melissa Boyd wrote:
> I am interested in a helmet cam or chest/harness mount camera that
> will either take still photos on an ongoing basis (like one per
> minute) or triggered with a bar-mounted remote. Any suggestions? I
> don't want video.
>
> Though I have carried a small point/shoot, the effort of stopping to
> pull it out (esp. when riding with a group) causes me to miss most of
> the really good shots.
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:14 AM, > wrote:
>
> I've thought about waterproof camera, but the only place I'd use
> it is on my rides, so instead of spending the extra money on a
> waterproof camera, I put both my phone and small point and shoot
> camera in a sandwich bag.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Fortes" >
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:03:50 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
>
> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I
> have had a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am
> thinking of getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey
> pocket. My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides. Does anyone
> have good experience with a camera that you would recommend.
>
> Thanks OBRA.
>
> -
>
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Rick Johnson

Totally, and I have a plethora of nice photos to show for it.

For the last couple years I've been using an Olympus Stylus. It's
waterproof and shock resistant in a nice trim package that is decent to
operate one handed (I even sometimes shoot while riding). With built-in
image stabilization it kicks the crap out of any camera phone out there
for image quality and quick focusing.

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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On 5/19/2011 7:03 AM, John Fortes wrote:
> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I have had a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am thinking of getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket. My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides. Does anyone have good experience with a camera that you would recommend.
>
> Thanks OBRA.
>
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Ian Mastenbrook

Waterproof camera's aren't too bad at photos, but they have minimal
zoom (usually less than 3X optical)... I personally use my Motorola
Defy, it's a waterproof cell phone with a 5mp camera. It's not too bad
for photos but there is no zoom and not much you can do as far as
settings. The Olympus Stylus Tough 8010 is an awesome camera for
durability and quality, but it's on the spendy side at around $270.
The Olympus 6020 is a better choice for cost ($160), and still has
exceptional quality shots for being a tough camera.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:03 AM, John Fortes wrote:
>
> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides?  I have had a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently.  I am thinking of getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket.  My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides.  Does anyone have good experience with a camera that you would recommend.
>
> Thanks OBRA.
>
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Melissa Boyd

I am interested in a helmet cam or chest/harness mount camera that will
either take still photos on an ongoing basis (like one per minute) or
triggered with a bar-mounted remote. Any suggestions? I don't want video.

Though I have carried a small point/shoot, the effort of stopping to pull it
out (esp. when riding with a group) causes me to miss most of the really
good shots.

Melissa

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:14 AM, wrote:

> I've thought about waterproof camera, but the only place I'd use it is on
> my rides, so instead of spending the extra money on a waterproof camera, I
> put both my phone and small point and shoot camera in a sandwich bag.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Fortes"
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:03:50 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question
>
> Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I have had a
> bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am thinking of getting a
> waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket. My SLR just won't cut
> it for bike rides. Does anyone have good experience with a camera that you
> would recommend.
>
> Thanks OBRA.
>
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>
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jon.ragsdale@comcast.net

I've thought about waterproof camera, but the only place I'd use it is on my rides, so instead of spending the extra money on a waterproof camera, I put both my phone and small point and shoot camera in a sandwich bag.

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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:03:50 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Camera to take on rides question

Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides?  I have had a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently.  I am thinking of getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket.  My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides.  Does anyone have good experience with a camera that you would recommend.

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John Fortes

Does anyone take a camera with them on their training rides? I have had a bunch of awesome photo opportunities recently. I am thinking of getting a waterproof camera that can fit in my jersey pocket. My SLR just won't cut it for bike rides. Does anyone have good experience with a camera that you would recommend.

Thanks OBRA.

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