Fawning Over Newbies

dacrizzow

2011-06-02

mr. catlin, now THAT was sarcasm! beautiful. maybe being from the east coast i mistook what seemed to be a very nasty, petty opinion from the original post(er) for what passes for west coast sarcasm. thanks again mr. catlin for that beautiful display that made me feel right at home. BTW, thanks to the guys taking the pix at the monday PIR lately. even though i'm an old slow cat 4, my friends and family back home enjoy seeing them when posted on facebook.
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eric aldinger

2011-06-01

Is this an implied guarantee that I will podium if I switch from mountain
bike racing to Cat 5 road racing?

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Brandon wrote:

> Wait until you cat up and become a has been finishing with the masses,
> the lack of podium finishes results in doping accusations from your old
> lower cat friends, and OCA wanting to treat you like Macaulay Culkin from
> Home Alone, you end up getting shitty work as a domestic for some anerexic
> alley Mcbeal looking Cat 3, when all you want is your top self google stalk
> results to be your name on OCA again!
>
> BM
>
> On Jun 1, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Greg Phillips wrote:
>
> And this is why I read the OBRA list. The Oregonian, Bend Bulletin,
> Velonews...none of them hold a candle for entertainment value.
> On Jun 1, 2011 8:49 AM, "Catlin, Wil" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dude, THANK YOU! You've expressed what I didn't dare. Ever since winning
> the Queen Event of Mt. Tabor Circuit Race last weekend, the Masters 40+ cat
> 4/5, my life has been hell.
> >
> > I didn't make it ten feet past the finish line before I was grabbed by
> souvenir-seekers, my jersey ripped from me, and my water bottle - still
> dripping with a viscous mixture of saliva and Cytomax - pried from my lips
> by shrieking fans. I autographed it, of course, but I felt demeaned and
> ridiculed by the objectification.
> >
> > And it didn't let up. Malach was there, of course - he stalks me, did you
> know that? - and he interviewed me with actions that, as I've been
> subsequently advised by both the S.E. Precinct AND an assistant DA, can
> technically be considered either unlawful restraint or sexual assault, while
> peppering me with questions for a profile he SAYS he's going to run during
> the racing lull this weekend (just some pro event out of town).
> >
> > After he was through with me (and man I really wanted to shower after
> what he did with that mic) I had to run the usual gauntlet: Oregonian,
> Cycling News, Men's Health, Arthritis Today, which didn't relent even when
> rumors swirled that Tonkin had arrived on a 'cross bike demanding to know if
> he could cut out the dog-leg on the climb and just ride up the stairs.
> >
> > And Mark! Can you believe it still hasn't stopped?! On my commute just
> this morning (I always have to work the commute angle), a garbage truck
> driver came right up next to me on Sandy, rolled down his window and, just I
> was bracing for the usual grudging praise of my riding skills, I heard this
> faint but unmistakable cry over his shrieking brakes and hydraulics:
> "TTAAAABBBORRR!!!"
> >
> > I've been considering giving the whole thing up - the attention isn't
> worth it for me, and it's not fair to my family - but then I keep thinking
> back to Candi Murray and the Finish-Line Judgettes there in the Tabor
> parking lot after the race, all lined up, arms over each other's shoulders,
> high-stepping in perfect synchronicity, singing in their dulcet tones (to
> the tune of 'Mr. Postman') "New-bie Racer, Racing for me-e. Did you Win?
> Wait and see-ee..." and I think, yeah. Yeah. It's worth it...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark Armstrong
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:32 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies
> >
> > Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,
> >
> > First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up
> OBRA. Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make
> bicycle racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that
> race and those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted
> family. And not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts
> (and sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can
> torture themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the
> things I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they
> be juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday
> PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great
> ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!
> >
> > My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in
> the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I
> see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up
> of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know
> of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of
> themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or
> read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their
> first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.
> >
> > Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.
> >
> > Mark
> > _______________________________________________
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Brandon

2011-06-01

Wait until you cat up and become a has been finishing with the masses, the lack of podium finishes results in doping accusations from your old lower cat friends, and OCA wanting to treat you like Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone, you end up getting shitty work as a domestic for some anerexic alley Mcbeal looking Cat 3, when all you want is your top self google stalk results to be your name on OCA again!

BM

On Jun 1, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Greg Phillips wrote:

> And this is why I read the OBRA list. The Oregonian, Bend Bulletin, Velonews...none of them hold a candle for entertainment value.
>
> On Jun 1, 2011 8:49 AM, "Catlin, Wil" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dude, THANK YOU! You've expressed what I didn't dare. Ever since winning the Queen Event of Mt. Tabor Circuit Race last weekend, the Masters 40+ cat 4/5, my life has been hell.
> >
> > I didn't make it ten feet past the finish line before I was grabbed by souvenir-seekers, my jersey ripped from me, and my water bottle - still dripping with a viscous mixture of saliva and Cytomax - pried from my lips by shrieking fans. I autographed it, of course, but I felt demeaned and ridiculed by the objectification.
> >
> > And it didn't let up. Malach was there, of course - he stalks me, did you know that? - and he interviewed me with actions that, as I've been subsequently advised by both the S.E. Precinct AND an assistant DA, can technically be considered either unlawful restraint or sexual assault, while peppering me with questions for a profile he SAYS he's going to run during the racing lull this weekend (just some pro event out of town).
> >
> > After he was through with me (and man I really wanted to shower after what he did with that mic) I had to run the usual gauntlet: Oregonian, Cycling News, Men's Health, Arthritis Today, which didn't relent even when rumors swirled that Tonkin had arrived on a 'cross bike demanding to know if he could cut out the dog-leg on the climb and just ride up the stairs.
> >
> > And Mark! Can you believe it still hasn't stopped?! On my commute just this morning (I always have to work the commute angle), a garbage truck driver came right up next to me on Sandy, rolled down his window and, just I was bracing for the usual grudging praise of my riding skills, I heard this faint but unmistakable cry over his shrieking brakes and hydraulics: "TTAAAABBBORRR!!!"
> >
> > I've been considering giving the whole thing up - the attention isn't worth it for me, and it's not fair to my family - but then I keep thinking back to Candi Murray and the Finish-Line Judgettes there in the Tabor parking lot after the race, all lined up, arms over each other's shoulders, high-stepping in perfect synchronicity, singing in their dulcet tones (to the tune of 'Mr. Postman') "New-bie Racer, Racing for me-e. Did you Win? Wait and see-ee..." and I think, yeah. Yeah. It's worth it...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Mark Armstrong
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:32 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies
> >
> > Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,
> >
> > First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA. Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!
> >
> > My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.
> >
> > Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.
> >
> > Mark
> > _______________________________________________
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Greg Phillips

2011-06-01

And this is why I read the OBRA list. The Oregonian, Bend Bulletin,
Velonews...none of them hold a candle for entertainment value.
On Jun 1, 2011 8:49 AM, "Catlin, Wil" wrote:
>
>
> Dude, THANK YOU! You've expressed what I didn't dare. Ever since winning
the Queen Event of Mt. Tabor Circuit Race last weekend, the Masters 40+ cat
4/5, my life has been hell.
>
> I didn't make it ten feet past the finish line before I was grabbed by
souvenir-seekers, my jersey ripped from me, and my water bottle - still
dripping with a viscous mixture of saliva and Cytomax - pried from my lips
by shrieking fans. I autographed it, of course, but I felt demeaned and
ridiculed by the objectification.
>
> And it didn't let up. Malach was there, of course - he stalks me, did you
know that? - and he interviewed me with actions that, as I've been
subsequently advised by both the S.E. Precinct AND an assistant DA, can
technically be considered either unlawful restraint or sexual assault, while
peppering me with questions for a profile he SAYS he's going to run during
the racing lull this weekend (just some pro event out of town).
>
> After he was through with me (and man I really wanted to shower after what
he did with that mic) I had to run the usual gauntlet: Oregonian, Cycling
News, Men's Health, Arthritis Today, which didn't relent even when rumors
swirled that Tonkin had arrived on a 'cross bike demanding to know if he
could cut out the dog-leg on the climb and just ride up the stairs.
>
> And Mark! Can you believe it still hasn't stopped?! On my commute just
this morning (I always have to work the commute angle), a garbage truck
driver came right up next to me on Sandy, rolled down his window and, just I
was bracing for the usual grudging praise of my riding skills, I heard this
faint but unmistakable cry over his shrieking brakes and hydraulics:
"TTAAAABBBORRR!!!"
>
> I've been considering giving the whole thing up - the attention isn't
worth it for me, and it's not fair to my family - but then I keep thinking
back to Candi Murray and the Finish-Line Judgettes there in the Tabor
parking lot after the race, all lined up, arms over each other's shoulders,
high-stepping in perfect synchronicity, singing in their dulcet tones (to
the tune of 'Mr. Postman') "New-bie Racer, Racing for me-e. Did you Win?
Wait and see-ee..." and I think, yeah. Yeah. It's worth it...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Armstrong
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:32 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies
>
> Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,
>
> First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA.
Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle
racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and
those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And
not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and
sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture
themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things
I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be
juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday PIR,
Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great ways
that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!
>
> My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in
the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I
see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up
of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know
of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of
themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or
read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their
first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.
>
> Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
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Catlin, Wil

2011-06-01

Dude, THANK YOU! You've expressed what I didn't dare. Ever since winning the Queen Event of Mt. Tabor Circuit Race last weekend, the Masters 40+ cat 4/5, my life has been hell.

I didn't make it ten feet past the finish line before I was grabbed by souvenir-seekers, my jersey ripped from me, and my water bottle - still dripping with a viscous mixture of saliva and Cytomax - pried from my lips by shrieking fans. I autographed it, of course, but I felt demeaned and ridiculed by the objectification.

And it didn't let up. Malach was there, of course - he stalks me, did you know that? - and he interviewed me with actions that, as I've been subsequently advised by both the S.E. Precinct AND an assistant DA, can technically be considered either unlawful restraint or sexual assault, while peppering me with questions for a profile he SAYS he's going to run during the racing lull this weekend (just some pro event out of town).

After he was through with me (and man I really wanted to shower after what he did with that mic) I had to run the usual gauntlet: Oregonian, Cycling News, Men's Health, Arthritis Today, which didn't relent even when rumors swirled that Tonkin had arrived on a 'cross bike demanding to know if he could cut out the dog-leg on the climb and just ride up the stairs.

And Mark! Can you believe it still hasn't stopped?! On my commute just this morning (I always have to work the commute angle), a garbage truck driver came right up next to me on Sandy, rolled down his window and, just I was bracing for the usual grudging praise of my riding skills, I heard this faint but unmistakable cry over his shrieking brakes and hydraulics: "TTAAAABBBORRR!!!"

I've been considering giving the whole thing up - the attention isn't worth it for me, and it's not fair to my family - but then I keep thinking back to Candi Murray and the Finish-Line Judgettes there in the Tabor parking lot after the race, all lined up, arms over each other's shoulders, high-stepping in perfect synchronicity, singing in their dulcet tones (to the tune of 'Mr. Postman') "New-bie Racer, Racing for me-e. Did you Win? Wait and see-ee..." and I think, yeah. Yeah. It's worth it...

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Mark Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:32 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies

Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,

First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA. Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!

My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.

Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.

Mark
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Huh ? i personally never even noticed whatever you are complaining about,
but maybe that because like most, in this webby-email- facebooky world my
brain sift and filters and well i send the obra mail to a seperate email
folder and only read this and that.

First couple races are a big deal. A first sprint and podium is a big deal
for cat 5 or cat 4 racer ! Even future wins or podiums cat 4 are a big
deal, no one would race if it wasn't. As you get older, you learn to
treasure each of these little wins or chances to compete, it might be your
last, as you fad away into family kids work and loss of fitness...

Hell I would love see myself sprinting again for a cat 4 win and if my wife
or step daughter won a cat 4 women race and got a picture in website, Whoa,
I am sorry thats a big deal and would be really exciting.. in my opinion,
that first win would be much bigger deal then oh a 31st win 5 years later as
a cat2.

We can definitely not do without all that grass roots coverage.

-john

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Mark Armstrong wrote:

> Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,
>
> First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA.
> Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle
> racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and
> those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And
> not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and
> sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture
> themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things
> I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be
> juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday
> PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great
> ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!
>
> My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in
> the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If
> I see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a
> write-up of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I
> don't know of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a
> picture of themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium
> finish or read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort
> in their first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.
>
> Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
>


dacrizzow

2011-06-01

i'm guessing this guy must be some of you guys friend because i read it over and over and i couldn't really get the "sarcasm" in it. and i've seen guys on here get attacked just for complaining about all the racing in the winter. by attacked i mean the usual "then put on your own race" or "then move where it doesn't rain" that sort of thing. what i read just sounded kind of...well...i don't know. i'll read it again. maybe i'm missing that very subtle point of sarcasm. (that was sarcasm)


Heather VanValkenburg

2011-06-01

Oh... Nevermind.... -Emily Litella

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Mike Murray wrote:

> Probably a little too subtle.
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Sandra
> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> To: remailer, OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies
> Sent: May 31, 2011 21:24
>
> In case it is lost on anyone let's clarify: I'm pretty sure that Mark is
> making a subtle satirical statement about supporting new racers alongside
> the well-loved stars.
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Ben Fischler

2011-06-01

I'm 99% sure he was being sarcastic. Meant in good fun.

-Ben

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On May 31, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Heather VanValkenburg wrote:

> WHAT?!? I can't even catch my breath long enough to form the words.
>
> Wait, yes I can. If you don't want to read it... then don't. These write ups and small rewards are often the only recognition many of these riders get. Don't be a party pooper. I can't believe you opened this can.
>
> At least you spelled everything correctly!
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Mark Armstrong wrote:
> Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,
>
> First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA. Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!
>
> My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.
>
> Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>
>
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>
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Mike Murray

2011-06-01

Probably a little too subtle.

------Original Message------
From: Sandra
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
To: remailer, OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies
Sent: May 31, 2011 21:24

In case it is lost on anyone let's clarify: I'm pretty sure that Mark is making a subtle satirical statement about supporting new racers alongside the well-loved stars.
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Sandra

2011-06-01

In case it is lost on anyone let's clarify: I'm pretty sure that Mark is making a subtle satirical statement about supporting new racers alongside the well-loved stars.


Heather VanValkenburg

2011-06-01

WHAT?!? I can't even catch my breath long enough to form the words.

Wait, yes I can. If you don't want to read it... then don't. These write ups
and small rewards are often the only recognition many of these riders get.
Don't be a party pooper. I can't believe you opened this can.

At least you spelled everything correctly!

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Mark Armstrong wrote:

> Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,
>
> First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA.
> Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle
> racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and
> those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And
> not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and
> sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture
> themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things
> I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be
> juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday
> PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great
> ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!
>
> My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in
> the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If
> I see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a
> write-up of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I
> don't know of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a
> picture of themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium
> finish or read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort
> in their first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.
>
> Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.
>
> Mark
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Tom Orth

2011-06-01

This guy would make the perfect topic for a bikesnobnyc blog entry.


sehsrugby@yahoo.com

2011-06-01

Really? I mean, really???

So much to say. Won't waste my breath though

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-----Original message-----
From: Mark Armstrong
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 03:32:28 GMT+00:00
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fawning Over Newbies

Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,

First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA.
Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle
racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and
those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And
not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and
sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture
themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things
I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be
juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday
PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great
ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!

My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in the
form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I
see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up
of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know
of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of
themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or
read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their
first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.

Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.

Mark
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Mark Armstrong

2011-06-01

Dear OBRA Members and Supporters,

First I would like to thank all of the wonderful people that make up OBRA. Seriously a terrific group of people that all do their best to make bicycle racing in Oregon a fantastic participatory experience for all that race and those that cheer them on, really feels like a big, multifaceted family. And not to mention the race organizers and all their unsung efforts (and sometimes sung) just so that a bunch of masochistic bike nuts can torture themselves for fun and their clans can cheer them on. But one of the things I like most about OBRA is it's support of the new racers whether they be juniors, cat 4 women or cat 5 men. Racing seminars, Monday PIR, Tuesday PIR, Friday Alpenrose, the Norm Babcock cat 4 women's series all are great ways that OBRA nurtures tomorrow's competent racers. I love it!

My only complaint is all the attention paid to these future bad-asses in the form of third party photographers and journalists. Enough already! If I see one more picture of a Monday PIR Novice race or have to read a write-up of the Norm Babcock Cat 4 Women's series I'm going to scream! I don't know of a single Cat 5 man or Cat 4 woman that has any desire to see a picture of themselves sprinting in the final meters of their first podium finish or read about how they are battling for a series title of some sort in their first couple years of racing. We can all do without that.

Anyway OBRA, keep up that great work and thanks for all you all do.

Mark