taking the plunge into tubulars ...

Evan Plews

2011-07-20

The durability to performance continuum... Tufo Vittoria Challenge FMB Dugast--in that order.
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From: Shane Gibson
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:13:35
To:
Subject: [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...

Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels for CX this season.  But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to glue on to them?  Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:

 * I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season 
 * I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly courses
 * Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job

I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure that there are some options out there that should fit the bill. 

Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please provide me your input on your tire choice?  Good and bad experiences welcome.  

Thank you!

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."   - Sun Tzu


Troy Sexton

2011-07-19

I ran griffo style tubulars for the first time last season, and was happy with the differences from clinchers. The giffo pattern was a good choice for most of the pdx conditions last year. However, I bought off an brand of the giffo pattern and the side knobs did not extend as far on the edge of the tire as the real challenge branded tires. The result was less grip in the corners. Food for thought.

This year I'll have a set of giffos and a set of limus for when it gets really bad.

Troy

On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Shane Gibson wrote:

>
> Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels for CX this season. But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to glue on to them? Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:
>
> * I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season
> * I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly courses
> * Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job
>
> I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure that there are some options out there that should fit the bill.
>
> Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please provide me your input on your tire choice? Good and bad experiences welcome.
>
> Thank you!
>
> ~~shane
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
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Sarah Tisdale

2011-07-19

I'm no expert, but have have run Challenge Grifos in dry and mud for
two seasons.

This has worked well and I have been happy. Only in the deepest mud
have I wished for some Dugast Rhinos.

On the other hand, I haven't had the money/time to try much else, so
my knowledge/experience is limited.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Justin Watkins wrote:
> I ran the cubus last season and I was 195lbs. They still look brand new.
>  They are a little slower in the pavement than the girafo and not as good in
> the off camber sections in mud as the dugast Rhino, but they took good care
> of me for most races I did last season and they held up to my weight as
> well.  There is very little maintenance needed for them, unlike the Rhino.
>  I didn't think the girafo did as well in the mud, but they were a good all
> around tire that some of my competitors were using.
> Good luck.
> Justin
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:08:14 -0700
> From: useyourdagger@gmail.com
> To: calling64@msn.com
> CC: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...
>
> For all conditions, I like my Challenge Grifos, if you can't afford Dugast
> Typhoons. The Challenge tires will be a bit more durable than Dugasts though
> not quite as supple.  The Grifos on my current set are going into their
> third season of pretty hard use and appear to have another season in them.
> They work well from September through December.
>
> I haven't been as impressed with the Tufos I've tried except the Rhinoceros,
> an older model no longer made which are great (I have not tried the Cubus
> but some people rave about them). I've also used a variety of Vittorias with
> mixed results. I like most of them better in dry than muddy conditions.
>
> Craig
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Chris Alling wrote:
>
> I am in the same boat but I was afraid of opening this can of worms so
> early.
>
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Shane Gibson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:14 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels for
> CX this season.  But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to
> glue on to them?  Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:
>
>
>
>  * I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season
>
>  * I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly courses
>
>  * Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job
>
>
>
> I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure
> that there are some options out there that should fit the bill.
>
> Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have
> experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please
> provide me your input on your tire choice?  Good and bad experiences
> welcome.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> ~~shane
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized."   - Sun Tzu
>
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Justin Watkins

2011-07-19

I ran the cubus last season and I was 195lbs. They still look brand new. They are a little slower in the pavement than the girafo and not as good in the off camber sections in mud as the dugast Rhino, but they took good care of me for most races I did last season and they held up to my weight as well. There is very little maintenance needed for them, unlike the Rhino. I didn't think the girafo did as well in the mud, but they were a good all around tire that some of my competitors were using.
Good luck.
Justin

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:08:14 -0700
From: useyourdagger@gmail.com
To: calling64@msn.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...

For all conditions, I like my Challenge Grifos, if you can't afford Dugast Typhoons. The Challenge tires will be a bit more durable than Dugasts though not quite as supple. The Grifos on my current set are going into their third season of pretty hard use and appear to have another season in them. They work well from September through December.

I haven't been as impressed with the Tufos I've tried except the Rhinoceros, an older model no longer made which are great (I have not tried the Cubus but some people rave about them). I've also used a variety of Vittorias with mixed results. I like most of them better in dry than muddy conditions.

Craig

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Chris Alling wrote:

I am in the same boat but I was afraid of opening this can of worms so early.

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Shane Gibson

Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:14 PM
To: OBRA
Subject: [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...
Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels for CX this season. But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to glue on to them? Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:
* I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season * I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly courses
* Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure that there are some options out there that should fit the bill.

Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please provide me your input on your tire choice? Good and bad experiences welcome.

Thank you! ~~shane--

"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
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craig austin

2011-07-19

For all conditions, I like my Challenge Grifos, if you can't afford Dugast
Typhoons. The Challenge tires will be a bit more durable than Dugasts though
not quite as supple. The Grifos on my current set are going into their
third season of pretty hard use and appear to have another season in them.
They work well from September through December.

I haven't been as impressed with the Tufos I've tried except the Rhinoceros,
an older model no longer made which are great (I have not tried the Cubus
but some people rave about them). I've also used a variety of Vittorias with
mixed results. I like most of them better in dry than muddy conditions.

Craig

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Chris Alling wrote:

> I am in the same boat but I was afraid of opening this can of worms so
> early.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Shane Gibson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:14 PM
> *To:* OBRA
> *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels
> for CX this season. But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to
> glue on to them? Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:****
>
> ** **
>
> * I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season ****
>
> * I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly
> courses****
>
> * Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure
> that there are some options out there that should fit the bill. ****
>
>
> Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have
> experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please
> provide me your input on your tire choice? Good and bad experiences
> welcome. ****
>
>
> Thank you!****
>
> ** **
>
> ~~shane****
>
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu****
>
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Chris Alling

2011-07-19

I am in the same boat but I was afraid of opening this can of worms so
early.

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Shane Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:14 PM
To: OBRA
Subject: [OBRA Chat] taking the plunge into tubulars ...

Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels for
CX this season. But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to
glue on to them? Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:

* I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season

* I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly courses

* Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job

I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure
that there are some options out there that should fit the bill.

Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have
experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please
provide me your input on your tire choice? Good and bad experiences
welcome.

Thank you!

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu


Shane Gibson

2011-07-19

Okay - I've decided to take the plunge on purchasing some tubular wheels for
CX this season. But, that leaves the age old quandary ... what tires to
glue on to them? Here are a few of my thoughts on requirements:

* I'm only going to glue one pair on for the season
* I'll need a tire for Portland's dry fast courses and muddy gnarly courses
* Clydesdale here - no need for any wussy casings to apply for this job

I know that puts a lot of pressure on a single tire, but I'm pretty sure
that there are some options out there that should fit the bill.

Those of you who have run Tubulars for a full CX season (or enough to have
experienced multiple conditions on the same set of tires) - could you please
provide me your input on your tire choice? Good and bad experiences
welcome.

Thank you!

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu