USA Cycling?

rondot@spiritone.com

2011-09-01

I was able to wear my S&M kit at Cyclocross Nationals the last two years in Bend. They probably did not mention the team name in any online or printed results as we are not registered with USAC. The USAC people I have dealt with have been fine(very helpful). Membership cost is significant compared to OBRA, but I renew because I feel they still, overall support cycling. I am sure they do very positive things of which I am not aware. OBRA is a huge success because it (we) focus on the racers and the support they need to find as much success as possible. If rules are different for each organization, I expect that at some point there will be understanding that allows racers to race both organizations. Things take time for lots of reasons.
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From: Candi Murray
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:34 PM
To: Sarah Tisdale
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] USA Cycling?

I was an employee of USAC for many years. The local reps kept talking to the 'home office' about Customer service. It is nice that they finally got the message.

Candi

On Sep 1, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:

I raced USAC races this year up in Washington, at CX Natx last year, and at Masters Road Nationals this year.

I have seen no one at the amateur levels excluded (perhaps Floyd might disagree...). Recently, the USAC officials I have dealt with have been very open, friendly, and helpful. Several of our OBRA officials also work as USAC officials. This year's road nationals races are being promoted by the same promoter that puts Cherry Blossom and MHCC together, so "those USAC people" are really a lot of local folks too.

I'll also mention that the USAC officials have been *crazy* quick with results this past year. The results at Capital Stage Race in WA this year were very fast. The TT results yesterday were almost instantaneous.

I love OBRA, but USAC isn't bad. At this point my only complaint about USAC races is that they cost a bit more.

Sarah

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Russ Rainforth wrote:

Maybe OBRA should go National and put USAC outta business!
Well... It's a thought. :-)

Russ Rainforth
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On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:

> Lately I've been hearing this "USA Cycling" name turn up a lot... is there actually some other bicycle racing organization besides OBRA?
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
>
>
>
> On 9/1/2011 12:38 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
>> I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.
>>
>> I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have ever encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at Park City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my birth certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...
>>
>> I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to put us out of business)
>>
>> Don Hanson
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Candi Murray

2011-09-01

I was an employee of USAC for many years. The local reps kept talking to the 'home office' about Customer service. It is nice that they finally got the message.

Candi

On Sep 1, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:

> I raced USAC races this year up in Washington, at CX Natx last year, and at Masters Road Nationals this year.
>
> I have seen no one at the amateur levels excluded (perhaps Floyd might disagree...). Recently, the USAC officials I have dealt with have been very open, friendly, and helpful. Several of our OBRA officials also work as USAC officials. This year's road nationals races are being promoted by the same promoter that puts Cherry Blossom and MHCC together, so "those USAC people" are really a lot of local folks too.
>
> I'll also mention that the USAC officials have been *crazy* quick with results this past year. The results at Capital Stage Race in WA this year were very fast. The TT results yesterday were almost instantaneous.
>
> I love OBRA, but USAC isn't bad. At this point my only complaint about USAC races is that they cost a bit more.
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Russ Rainforth wrote:
> Maybe OBRA should go National and put USAC outta business!
> Well... It's a thought. :-)
>
> Russ Rainforth
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> > Lately I've been hearing this "USA Cycling" name turn up a lot... is there actually some other bicycle racing organization besides OBRA?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Johnson
> > Bend Oregon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/2011 12:38 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
> >> I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.
> >>
> >> I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have ever encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at Park City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my birth certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...
> >>
> >> I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to put us out of business)
> >>
> >> Don Hanson
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OBRA mailing list
> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
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> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Sarah Tisdale

2011-09-01

I raced USAC races this year up in Washington, at CX Natx last year, and at
Masters Road Nationals this year.

I have seen no one at the amateur levels excluded (perhaps Floyd might
disagree...). Recently, the USAC officials I have dealt with have been very
open, friendly, and helpful. Several of our OBRA officials also work as
USAC officials. This year's road nationals races are being promoted by the
same promoter that puts Cherry Blossom and MHCC together, so "those USAC
people" are really a lot of local folks too.

I'll also mention that the USAC officials have been *crazy* quick with
results this past year. The results at Capital Stage Race in WA this year
were very fast. The TT results yesterday were almost instantaneous.

I love OBRA, but USAC isn't bad. At this point my only complaint about USAC
races is that they cost a bit more.

Sarah

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Russ Rainforth wrote:

> Maybe OBRA should go National and put USAC outta business!
> Well... It's a thought. :-)
>
> Russ Rainforth
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> > Lately I've been hearing this "USA Cycling" name turn up a lot... is
> there actually some other bicycle racing organization besides OBRA?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Johnson
> > Bend Oregon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/2011 12:38 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
> >> I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders
> being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more
> interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.
> >>
> >> I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have
> ever encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at
> Park City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my
> birth certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to
> provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could
> do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or
> all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at
> anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...
> >>
> >> I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to
> put us out of business)
> >>
> >> Don Hanson
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OBRA mailing list
> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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>


Russ Rainforth

2011-09-01

Maybe OBRA should go National and put USAC outta business!
Well... It's a thought. :-)

Russ Rainforth
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:

> Lately I've been hearing this "USA Cycling" name turn up a lot... is there actually some other bicycle racing organization besides OBRA?
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
>
>
>
> On 9/1/2011 12:38 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
>> I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.
>>
>> I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have ever encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at Park City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my birth certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...
>>
>> I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to put us out of business)
>>
>> Don Hanson
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Adam Kennedy

2011-09-01

The "on-the-ground" officials/staff/volunteers for the masters natz tt
Wednesday killed it. In this regard, USAC did an awesome job.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:

> Lately I've been hearing this "USA Cycling" name turn up a lot... is there
> actually some other bicycle racing organization besides OBRA?
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
>
>
>
> On 9/1/2011 12:38 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
>
>> I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders
>> being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more
>> interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.
>>
>> I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have ever
>> encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at Park
>> City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my birth
>> certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to
>> provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could
>> do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or
>> all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at
>> anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...
>>
>> I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to put
>> us out of business)
>>
>> Don Hanson
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>>
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Rick Johnson

2011-09-01

Lately I've been hearing this "USA Cycling" name turn up a lot... is
there actually some other bicycle racing organization besides OBRA?

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

On 9/1/2011 12:38 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
> I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.
>
> I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have ever encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at Park City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my birth certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...
>
> I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to put us out of business)
>
> Don Hanson
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org


Don Hanson

2011-09-01

I saw the thread about teams, jerseys and dues at Natz...and riders being excluded. What is it with USA Cycling? They seem to be more interested in stopping racers from racing than working for us, as racers.

I've dealt with them as a racer since the late '80s and all I have ever encountered with them is arrogant negative 'help'. Like showing up at Park City for Masters Nationals one year and being told I had to provide my birth certificate to prove I was eligible to race....Or being told I had to provide an international license and a letter of permission before I could do a club masters race in Canada...Or paying extra to race unattached. or all kinds of other little nit-picking stumbling blocks they seem to fire at anyone wanting to race bikes in the US...

I'll stick with OBRA...thanks....(unless USA cycling finds a way to put us out of business)

Don Hanson