Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark

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"... and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny aluminum

foil"



thank goodness! I thought we were starting to share the time honored tricks

for preventing mind reading. as everyone knows aluminum foil wrapped on ones

head reflects the potential for mind reading and more importantly mind

control. It would make racing a whole lot harder if my Jedi mind powers were

thwarted. whew... mylar is fine, I can get around that one.





Hey-Suas





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From: David Auker [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:27 AM

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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark





Please! That's Mylar, not foil (Art Media, Portland)! And it doesn't do

anything at night or on a gray day. In sunlight, though, it's pretty

visible.



Bright white is probably the best all-around choice for helmet, having some

augmentation with reflector tape (Sanderson Safety, NAPA Auto, Beth).



For dedicated night riding, I have a bike (and helmet) covered with

reflective tape, mostly white. Once the tape is applied, it's pretty hard

to remove - putting it on the cranks was quite a decision, but very

worthwhile in the name of safety! With added lights, I get quite an obvious

berth from cars at night.



David



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From: Ted Forgeron



... and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny aluminum

foil. ;-)



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Also: riders, remember to dress brightly in the daytime! ...

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<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=596412115-29102002>"</SPAN>... and don't forget to cover your

helmet with bright and shiny aluminum foil<SPAN

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<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=596412115-29102002>thank goodness! I thought we were starting

to share the time honored tricks for preventing mind reading. as everyone knows

aluminum foil wrapped on ones head reflects the potential for mind reading

and more importantly mind control. It would make racing a whole lot harder if my

Jedi mind powers were thwarted. whew... mylar is fine, I can get around

that one.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN

class=596412115-29102002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN

class=596412115-29102002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN

class=596412115-29102002>Hey-Suas</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Auker

[mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:27

AM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] Fellow

Commuters commuting in the dark<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Please!  That's Mylar, not foil (Art Media,

Portland)!  And it doesn't do anything at night or on a gray day. 

In sunlight, though, it's pretty visible.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bright white is probably the best all-around choice for

helmet, having some augmentation with reflector tape (Sanderson Safety, NAPA

Auto, Beth).  </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>For dedicated night riding, I have a bike (and helmet)

covered with reflective tape, mostly white.  Once the tape is applied,

it's pretty hard to remove - putting it on the cranks was quite a decision,

but very worthwhile in the name of safety!  With added lights, I get

quite an obvious berth from cars at night.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David</FONT></DIV>

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    Forgeron</A> </DIV><BR></DIV>

    <DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

    size=2>... and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny

    aluminum foil.  ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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      size=1><EM>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Auker

      [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2002 9:14

      AM<BR><B>To:</B> </EM></FONT><A href="mailto:ob-@topica.com"><FONT

      size=1><EM>ob-@topica.com</EM></FONT></A><BR><FONT

      size=1><EM><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in

      the dark<BR><BR></EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>

      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1><EM>Also: riders, remember to <FONT

      color=#ff0000>dress brightly <FONT color=#000000>in the</FONT>

      daytime</FONT>!  ...</EM></FONT></DIV>

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Please! That's Mylar, not foil (Art Media, Portland)! And it doesn't do anything at night or on a gray day. In sunlight, though, it's pretty visible.



Bright white is probably the best all-around choice for helmet, having some augmentation with reflector tape (Sanderson Safety, NAPA Auto, Beth).



For dedicated night riding, I have a bike (and helmet) covered with reflective tape, mostly white. Once the tape is applied, it's pretty hard to remove - putting it on the cranks was quite a decision, but very worthwhile in the name of safety! With added lights, I get quite an obvious berth from cars at night.



David

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From: Ted Forgeron





... and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny aluminum foil. ;-)

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    Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:14 AM

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Please!  That's Mylar, not foil (Art Media,

Portland)!  And it doesn't do anything at night or on a gray day.  In

sunlight, though, it's pretty visible.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bright white is probably the best all-around choice for

helmet, having some augmentation with reflector tape (Sanderson Safety, NAPA

Auto, Beth).  </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>For dedicated night riding, I have a bike (and helmet)

covered with reflective tape, mostly white.  Once the tape is applied, it's

pretty hard to remove - putting it on the cranks was quite a decision, but very

worthwhile in the name of safety!  With added lights, I get quite an

obvious berth from cars at night.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David</FONT></DIV>

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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>

<A title-@easystreet.com href="mailto:te-@easystreet.com">Ted

Forgeron</A> </DIV><BR></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>...

and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny aluminum

foil.  ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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    size=1><EM>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Auker

    [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2002 9:14

    AM<BR><B>To:</B> </EM></FONT><A href="mailto:ob-@topica.com"><FONT

    size=1><EM>ob-@topica.com</EM></FONT></A><BR><FONT

    size=1><EM><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the

    dark<BR><BR></EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1><EM>Also: riders, remember to <FONT

    color=#ff0000>dress brightly <FONT color=#000000>in the</FONT>

    daytime</FONT>!  ...</EM></FONT></DIV>

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... and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny aluminum

foil. ;-)

-----Original Message-----

From: David Auker [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:14 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark





Also: riders, remember to dress brightly in the daytime! Like it or not,

motorists are the sharks out there waiting to bite. It's usually not an

intentional predation, but if you don't dress brightly, you reduce the

"advance time" the motorist has to accommodate your presence on the road.

Human nature unfortunately has a swing towards anger when surprises happen,

and we don't need angry motorists! Empower yourself with safety clothing

all times of day! Making a left turn in busy traffic is an example of mo'

power: which rider signals with authority, the one with gray sleeves, or the

one with bright yellow sleeves? I think some riders may feel dressing

way-bright is kowtowing to motorists, but I think it allows much more

aggressive, assertive maneuvering.



Using Velcro, I've made anklets and wristlets from bright yellow plastic

reflective material (available at Sanderson Safety Supply, Portland). They

look pretty funky, but "look" is the key word...



Friends don't let friends ride in dark clothing.



Camouflage is for aminals!



David

River City/Team Rose City





> Beth, I would love some (a lot actually) of that tape. As part of my

> training for the team I race with, I commute from Beaverton to Parkrose

~

> 30 miles one way, leaving at 5:00am. It would be very helpful to have

> plenty of reflective tape.   My address is:

>

> 15030 SW Ruby street

> Beaverton, OR. 97007

>

> Thanks again, Leo Porreco

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Peter Gierga [mailto:aero-@hotmail.com]



> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark

>

>

> Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store also carries reflective

tape.

> Lots is MO Bettah!

>                Best, Peter



>

>

> >From: Bet-@schetkynw.com



> >Well it is that time of year again which can be deadly for all of us if

we

> >are not seen at night. I want to offer some assistance to the

commuters as

> >far as being seen in the dark. I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective

> >tape

> >1 1/4" wide that is adhesive. If anyone would like me to send them a

strip

> >of this tape,

> >e-mail me with your address and I will be happy to send it to you. If

the

> >response is overwhelming please be patient. This tape is the same

bright

> >YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping our kids

safe.

> >It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or your

helmet.

> >It could save your life!

> >

> >Beth



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<DIV><SPAN class=790574913-29102002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>...

and don't forget to cover your helmet with bright and shiny aluminum foil. 

;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Auker

[mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2002 9:14

AM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] Fellow

Commuters commuting in the dark<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Also: riders, remember to <FONT color=#ff0000>dress

brightly <FONT color=#000000>in the</FONT> daytime</FONT>!  Like it or

not, motorists are the <FONT color=#ff00ff>sharks</FONT> out there waiting to

bite.  It's usually <U>not</U> an intentional predation, but if you

don't dress brightly, you reduce the "advance time" the motorist has to

accommodate your presence on the road.  Human nature unfortunately has a

swing towards anger when <FONT color=#ff00ff>surprises</FONT> happen, and we

don't need <FONT color=#ff00ff>angry</FONT> motorists!  Empower yourself

with <FONT color=#ff0000>safety clothing</FONT> all times of day!  Making

a left turn in busy traffic is an example of mo' power: which rider signals

with authority, the one with gray sleeves, or the one with bright yellow

sleeves?  I think some riders may feel dressing way-bright is

kowtowing to motorists, but I think it allows much more aggressive, assertive

maneuvering.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Using Velcro, I've made anklets and wristlets from

bright yellow plastic reflective material (available at Sanderson Safety

Supply, Portland).  They look pretty funky, but "look" is the key

word...  </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Friends don't let friends ride in dark

clothing.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Camouflage is for aminals!</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David </FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>River City/Team Rose City</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Arial>>

Beth, I would love some (a lot actually) of that tape.  As part of

my<BR>> training for the team I race with,  I commute from Beaverton

to Parkrose ~<BR>> 30 miles one way, leaving at 5:00am.  It would be

very helpful to have<BR>> plenty of reflective tape.   My address

is:  <BR>> <BR>> 15030 SW Ruby street<BR>> Beaverton, OR.

97007<BR>> <BR>> Thanks again,  Leo Porreco<BR>> <BR>>

-----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Peter Gierga

[mailto:aero-@hotmail.com]<BR> </FONT><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial

size=1>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the

dark<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store

also carries reflective tape. <BR>> Lots is MO Bettah!<BR>>

              

Best, Peter<BR> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >From: </FONT><A

href="mailto:Bet-@schetkynw.com"><FONT face=Arial

size=1>Bet-@schetkynw.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT

face=Arial size=1> <BR>> >Well it is that time of year again which

can be deadly for all of us if we<BR>> >are not seen at night.  I

want to offer some assistance to the commuters as<BR>> >far as being

seen in the dark.  I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective <BR>>

>tape<BR>> >1 1/4" wide that is adhesive.  If anyone would like

me to send them a strip<BR>> >of this tape,<BR>> >e-mail me with

your address and I will be happy to send it to you.  If the<BR>>

>response is overwhelming please be patient.  This tape is the same

bright<BR>> >YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping

our kids safe.<BR>> >It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your

shoes or your helmet.<BR>> >It could save your life!<BR>>

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The anklet reflectors are highly effective. Remember that the eye "notices" movement much quicker than the brain "recognizes" an object. Up in here in the West Hills, we have many "stealth runners" (black tights, dark tops) and their shoe reflectors give an early warning, typically well before any upper torso warning vests.



Paranoia is the fear of unreal dangers. Cyclists don't have time for phantoms phobias.



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The anklet reflectors are highly effective. 

Remember that the eye "notices" movement much quicker than the brain

"recognizes" an object.  Up in here in the West Hills, we have many

"stealth runners" (black tights, dark tops) and their shoe reflectors give an

early warning, typically well before any upper torso warning vests.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paranoia is the fear of unreal dangers. 

Cyclists don't have time for phantoms phobias.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Using Velcro, I've made anklets and wristlets from

bright yellow plastic reflective material (available at Sanderson Safety

Supply, Portland).  They look pretty funky, but "look" is the key

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Also: riders, remember to dress brightly in the daytime! Like it or not, motorists are the sharks out there waiting to bite. It's usually not an intentional predation, but if you don't dress brightly, you reduce the "advance time" the motorist has to accommodate your presence on the road. Human nature unfortunately has a swing towards anger when surprises happen, and we don't need angry motorists! Empower yourself with safety clothing all times of day! Making a left turn in busy traffic is an example of mo' power: which rider signals with authority, the one with gray sleeves, or the one with bright yellow sleeves? I think some riders may feel dressing way-bright is kowtowing to motorists, but I think it allows much more aggressive, assertive maneuvering.



Using Velcro, I've made anklets and wristlets from bright yellow plastic reflective material (available at Sanderson Safety Supply, Portland). They look pretty funky, but "look" is the key word...



Friends don't let friends ride in dark clothing.



Camouflage is for aminals!



David

River City/Team Rose City





 Beth, I would love some (a lot actually) of that tape. As part of my

training for the team I race with, I commute from Beaverton to Parkrose ~

30 miles one way, leaving at 5:00am. It would be very helpful to have

plenty of reflective tape.   My address is:



15030 SW Ruby street

Beaverton, OR. 97007



Thanks again, Leo Porreco



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From: Peter Gierga [mailto:aero-@hotmail.com]



 Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark





Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store also carries reflective tape.

Lots is MO Bettah!

                Best, Peter



 



 From: Bet-@schetkynw.com



  Well it is that time of year again which can be deadly for all of us if we

are not seen at night. I want to offer some assistance to the commuters as

far as being seen in the dark. I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective

tape

1 1/4" wide that is adhesive. If anyone would like me to send them a strip

of this tape,

e-mail me with your address and I will be happy to send it to you. If the

response is overwhelming please be patient. This tape is the same bright

YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping our kids safe.

It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or your helmet.

It could save your life!



Beth







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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Also: riders, remember to <FONT color=#ff0000>dress

brightly <FONT color=#000000>in the</FONT> daytime</FONT>!  Like it or not,

motorists are the <FONT color=#ff00ff>sharks</FONT> out there waiting to

bite.  It's usually <U>not</U> an intentional predation, but if you

don't dress brightly, you reduce the "advance time" the motorist has to

accommodate your presence on the road.  Human nature unfortunately has a

swing towards anger when <FONT color=#ff00ff>surprises</FONT> happen, and we

don't need <FONT color=#ff00ff>angry</FONT> motorists!  Empower yourself

with <FONT color=#ff0000>safety clothing</FONT> all times of day!  Making a

left turn in busy traffic is an example of mo' power: which rider signals with

authority, the one with gray sleeves, or the one with bright yellow

sleeves?  I think some riders may feel dressing way-bright is

kowtowing to motorists, but I think it allows much more aggressive, assertive

maneuvering.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Using Velcro, I've made anklets and wristlets from

bright yellow plastic reflective material (available at Sanderson Safety Supply,

Portland).  They look pretty funky, but "look" is the key word... 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Friends don't let friends ride in dark

clothing.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Camouflage is for aminals!</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David </FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial>River City/Team Rose City</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Arial>> Beth,

I would love some (a lot actually) of that tape.  As part of my<BR>>

training for the team I race with,  I commute from Beaverton to Parkrose

~<BR>> 30 miles one way, leaving at 5:00am.  It would be very helpful to

have<BR>> plenty of reflective tape.   My address is: 

<BR>> <BR>> 15030 SW Ruby street<BR>> Beaverton, OR. 97007<BR>>

<BR>> Thanks again,  Leo Porreco<BR>> <BR>> -----Original

Message-----<BR>> From: Peter Gierga

[mailto:aero-@hotmail.com]<BR> </FONT><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial

size=1>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the

dark<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store

also carries reflective tape. <BR>> Lots is MO Bettah!<BR>>

              

Best, Peter<BR> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >From: </FONT><A

href="mailto:Bet-@schetkynw.com"><FONT face=Arial

size=1>Bet-@schetkynw.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT

face=Arial size=1> <BR>> >Well it is that time of year again which

can be deadly for all of us if we<BR>> >are not seen at night.  I

want to offer some assistance to the commuters as<BR>> >far as being seen

in the dark.  I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective <BR>>

 tape<BR>> >1 1/4" wide that is adhesive.  If anyone would like me

to send them a strip<BR>> >of this tape,<BR>> >e-mail me with your

address and I will be happy to send it to you.  If the<BR>> >response

is overwhelming please be patient.  This tape is the same bright<BR>>

 YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping our kids

safe.<BR>> >It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or

your helmet.<BR>> >It could save your life!<BR>> ><BR>>

 Beth<BR> </FONT>





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Porreco, Leo

2002-10-28

Beth, I would love some (a lot actually) of that tape. As part of my

training for the team I race with, I commute from Beaverton to Parkrose ~

30 miles one way, leaving at 5:00am. It would be very helpful to have

plenty of reflective tape.   My address is:



15030 SW Ruby street

Beaverton, OR. 97007



Thanks again, Leo Porreco



-----Original Message-----

From: Peter Gierga [mailto:aero-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:30 PM

To: Bet-@schetkynw.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark





Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store also carries reflective tape.

Lots is MO Bettah!

               Best, Peter













 From: Bet-@schetkynw.com

Reply-To: Bet-@schetkynw.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:18:14 -0700



Well it is that time of year again which can be deadly for all of us if we

are not seen at night. I want to offer some assistance to the commuters as

far as being seen in the dark. I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective

tape

1 1/4" wide that is adhesive. If anyone would like me to send them a strip

of this tape,

e-mail me with your address and I will be happy to send it to you. If the

response is overwhelming please be patient. This tape is the same bright

YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping our kids safe.

It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or your helmet.

It could save your life!



Beth



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2002-10-28

As I head out the door in 10 minutes, I am glad others are sharing their

tips..



I like Sanderson Safety ... and I also recently bought this lighted "wire"

from River City, which I wove into my pack. It runs on AA batteries and

provides a whole lot of perspective for a driver to see something larger

than a red flashing light...



Ride safe !



-r



 -----Original Message-----

From: Peter Gierga [mailto:aero-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:30 PM

To: Bet-@schetkynw.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark





Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store also carries

reflective tape.

Lots is MO Bettah!

                Best, Peter













 From: Bet-@schetkynw.com

Reply-To: Bet-@schetkynw.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:18:14 -0700



Well it is that time of year again which can be deadly for

all of us if we

 are not seen at night. I want to offer some assistance to

the commuters as

 far as being seen in the dark. I have some REFLEXITE yellow

reflective

 tape

1 1/4" wide that is adhesive. If anyone would like me to

send them a strip

 of this tape,

e-mail me with your address and I will be happy to send it

to you. If the

 response is overwhelming please be patient. This tape is

the same bright

 YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping

our kids safe.

 It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or

your helmet.

 It could save your life!



Beth



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Peter Gierga

2002-10-27

Thats great! Your local NAPA Auto parts store also carries reflective tape.

Lots is MO Bettah!

               Best, Peter













 From: Bet-@schetkynw.com

Reply-To: Bet-@schetkynw.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fellow Commuters commuting in the dark

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:18:14 -0700



Well it is that time of year again which can be deadly for all of us if we

are not seen at night. I want to offer some assistance to the commuters as

far as being seen in the dark. I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective

tape

1 1/4" wide that is adhesive. If anyone would like me to send them a strip

of this tape,

e-mail me with your address and I will be happy to send it to you. If the

response is overwhelming please be patient. This tape is the same bright

YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping our kids safe.

It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or your helmet.

It could save your life!



Beth



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2002-10-24

Well it is that time of year again which can be deadly for all of us if we

are not seen at night. I want to offer some assistance to the commuters as

far as being seen in the dark. I have some REFLEXITE yellow reflective tape

1 1/4" wide that is adhesive. If anyone would like me to send them a strip

of this tape,

e-mail me with your address and I will be happy to send it to you. If the

response is overwhelming please be patient. This tape is the same bright

YELLOW tape that you see outlining the school buses keeping our kids safe.

It can be applied to your bicycle, the back of your shoes or your helmet.

It could save your life!



Beth