Johnson Farm course

B Witty

2002-10-24

Chris is a Johnson Farm (and 'Cross Crusade) stalwart. He pretty much

sums it up perfectly and I would trust his opinion. However.....we have

some new stuff, even for Chris.

We cut a couple of new trails just today and added a really cool new

obstacle (the "disco under") that are worth showing up for. We probably

added a little bit of climbing overall, but we broke it up into several

shorter sections rather than one long grinding hill.

A lot of people bring both a 'crosser and an MTB (if they have them) and

decide the day of the race. When it's muddy, the MTB is probably better

for traction and handling. With it being dry, the 'cross bike might be

the better.

Also, we took several laps today with a 4 wheeler dragging some tires to

smooth things out a bit. There is still plenty of "washboard" type

bumps though, and the twisty descents are still there.

It's an absolute rip to ride the course no matter what bike you have.

The course will be marked and open to ride on Saturday if you decide to

come out an camp overnight.





Chris Brandt wrote:

 In my opinion, I think it's a toss up. You're comparing the advantages

of

the cross bike to those of the mtb. A cross bike always has an advantage

on

flatter fast style courses, or those with long runups. This course has a

lot

of extended steeper climbing sections, and some rougher descents, which

go

directly down the slope, through a lot of stutter bump washboards, and

tight, winding turns through the dark (jack-o-lantern lit) trees. Your

decision should depend on your bike handling skills and what is more

important to you. Light weight on the climbs, or a plusher ride down? If

it

gets muddy, (think clay soil out there), the mtb will pick up more

weight. A

mtb usually has easier gears on the uphill section, but is heavier for

carrying. If you've worn yourself out on the downhill with a

rough-riding

crossy, you might not be as recovered for the climb. I think those are

the

main variables for making a decision. It's up to you to decide what you

like

best and what your strengths/weaknesses are.



I personally haven't made my mind up yet. - chris





 From: ted gresh <tgr-@parametrix.com>

Reply-To: tgr-@parametrix.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Johnson Farm course

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:41:49 -0700



I am a relative newby to the Cross scene and have a question....I have

heard that the Johnson Farm course described as being better suited for

a

mountain bike rather than a cross bike. Would someone care to talk a

little

about that. What would make a course better suited for a mountain bike??



Thanks,



Ted





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Chris Brandt

2002-10-24

In my opinion, I think it's a toss up. You're comparing the advantages of

the cross bike to those of the mtb. A cross bike always has an advantage on

flatter fast style courses, or those with long runups. This course has a lot

of extended steeper climbing sections, and some rougher descents, which go

directly down the slope, through a lot of stutter bump washboards, and

tight, winding turns through the dark (jack-o-lantern lit) trees. Your

decision should depend on your bike handling skills and what is more

important to you. Light weight on the climbs, or a plusher ride down? If it

gets muddy, (think clay soil out there), the mtb will pick up more weight. A

mtb usually has easier gears on the uphill section, but is heavier for

carrying. If you've worn yourself out on the downhill with a rough-riding

crossy, you might not be as recovered for the climb. I think those are the

main variables for making a decision. It's up to you to decide what you like

best and what your strengths/weaknesses are.



I personally haven't made my mind up yet. - chris





 From: ted gresh <tgr-@parametrix.com>

Reply-To: tgr-@parametrix.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Johnson Farm course

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:41:49 -0700



I am a relative newby to the Cross scene and have a question....I have

heard that the Johnson Farm course described as being better suited for a

mountain bike rather than a cross bike. Would someone care to talk a little

about that. What would make a course better suited for a mountain bike??



Thanks,



Ted





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ted gresh

2002-10-24

I am a relative newby to the Cross scene and have a question....I have heard that the Johnson Farm course described as being better suited for a mountain bike rather than a cross bike. Would someone care to talk a little about that. What would make a course better suited for a mountain bike??



Thanks,



Ted