rondot@spiritone.com

Some answers (from my question below) were posted only to me, but here is the abridged material, some of you have seen and or know.
10 speed Wipperman and KMC links work on the SRAM, Shimano and of course their own chains no problemo. Some have had good luck re-using the black 10 speed SRAM powerlinks mainly by using needlenose pliers and or the Park / SRAM powerlink pliers to remove the powerlink....then reuse it. They have had no problems! Just a little patience to get the link off.
Also got a good recommendation for KMC chains...as in very dependable and as good as others!
So there ya go! I (we) learned something today.....now all “I” have to do is remember it for use before my dementia advances.
Hope to see lots of you at Barlow..................last weather forecast I saw called for RAIN on Sunday morning. YES !
ronnie

From: rondot@spiritone.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:31 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question

I need info. from those of you “in the know”.
I am a happy user of SRAM 8 and 9 spd chains which use the powerlock link. I find this very functional. Many years of removing chains with chain tool were kissed goodbye when I discovered the powerlock link. They are easy to install and remove making drivetrain cleaning much more efficient.
Now I find the SRAM 10 spd chain powerlock link cannot be re-used. I say why even have the powerlock link if you have to use a chain tool to remove it, then it gets tossed into the recycling bin? I guess the engineers could not design one that could be re-installed.
I heard a rumor the Wipperman 10 spd link can be re-used as well as used on a SRAM or Shimano chain.
Is this true? An actual fact?
Help me! Help me! I am crying over chain links.
I think this would be good info for more than this simpleton....there might be others wanting to know.
ron strasser

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Ian Mastenbrook

Yes you absolutely can open the 10 speed SRAM PowerLOCK's. I do it all the
time, just takes some technique to get it right. I lengthened my new CX
chain too long, so I finally found out how to take it apart. It's not as
easy as the gold 9sp PowerLinks, but it will save you from buying a new
chain. I now have over 500 miles on my chain following putting the PowerLock
back in, and can say that it still feels like a brand new chain.

Made a video demonstrating the steps to share, I bet SRAM is pissed that I
shared the secret with the public :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiXsOfZDdT0

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Michael Medina wrote:

> Sorry, here'a more relevant link, and somewhat local
>
> http://goo.gl/Ki5VH
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Michael Medina

Sorry, here'a more relevant link, and somewhat local

http://goo.gl/Ki5VH

Michael Medina

>
>
> How much are the KMC links?
>
>
http://goo.gl/8IwRA

Steve Lacey

Hi Dan and Ron:
I am using a KMC link on my Sram 10 speed chain with not problems.  The KMC quick link is a lot less expensive than the Wipperman, which I have also used in the past on 9 speed Shimano chains..
 
Steve 

From: "rondot@spiritone.com"
To: Dan H ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question

How much are the KMC links?

From: Dan H
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:37 PM
To: rondot@spiritone.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question
put a KMC connector link on it.
 
Dan Houghton
Southwest Bicycle
3605 SW Multnomah Boulevard
Portland, OR 97219
www.southwestbicycle.com
503-246-0333

----- Original Message -----
>From: rondot@spiritone.com
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:31 PM
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question
>
>I need info. from those of you “in the know”.
>I am a happy user of SRAM 8 and 9 spd chains which use the powerlock link.  I find this very functional.  Many years of removing chains with chain tool were kissed goodbye when I discovered the powerlock link.  They are easy to install and remove making drivetrain cleaning much more efficient. 
>Now I find the SRAM 10 spd chain powerlock link cannot be re-used.  I say why even have the powerlock link if you have to use a chain tool to remove it, then it gets tossed into the recycling bin?  I guess the engineers could not design one that could be re-installed. 
>I heard a rumor the Wipperman 10 spd link can be re-used as well as used on a SRAM or Shimano chain. 
>Is this true?  An actual fact?
>Help me!  Help me!  I am crying over chain links.
>I think this would be good info for more than this simpleton....there might be others wanting to know.
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rondot@spiritone.com

How much are the KMC links?

From: Dan H
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:37 PM
To: rondot@spiritone.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question

put a KMC connector link on it.

Dan Houghton
Southwest Bicycle
3605 SW Multnomah Boulevard
Portland, OR 97219
www.southwestbicycle.com
503-246-0333

----- Original Message -----
From: rondot@spiritone.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:31 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question

I need info. from those of you “in the know”.
I am a happy user of SRAM 8 and 9 spd chains which use the powerlock link. I find this very functional. Many years of removing chains with chain tool were kissed goodbye when I discovered the powerlock link. They are easy to install and remove making drivetrain cleaning much more efficient.
Now I find the SRAM 10 spd chain powerlock link cannot be re-used. I say why even have the powerlock link if you have to use a chain tool to remove it, then it gets tossed into the recycling bin? I guess the engineers could not design one that could be re-installed.
I heard a rumor the Wipperman 10 spd link can be re-used as well as used on a SRAM or Shimano chain.
Is this true? An actual fact?
Help me! Help me! I am crying over chain links.
I think this would be good info for more than this simpleton....there might be others wanting to know.
ron strasser

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Dan H

put a KMC connector link on it.

Dan Houghton
Southwest Bicycle
3605 SW Multnomah Boulevard
Portland, OR 97219
www.southwestbicycle.com
503-246-0333

----- Original Message -----
From: rondot@spiritone.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:31 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] chain tech question

I need info. from those of you “in the know”.
I am a happy user of SRAM 8 and 9 spd chains which use the powerlock link. I find this very functional. Many years of removing chains with chain tool were kissed goodbye when I discovered the powerlock link. They are easy to install and remove making drivetrain cleaning much more efficient.
Now I find the SRAM 10 spd chain powerlock link cannot be re-used. I say why even have the powerlock link if you have to use a chain tool to remove it, then it gets tossed into the recycling bin? I guess the engineers could not design one that could be re-installed.
I heard a rumor the Wipperman 10 spd link can be re-used as well as used on a SRAM or Shimano chain.
Is this true? An actual fact?
Help me! Help me! I am crying over chain links.
I think this would be good info for more than this simpleton....there might be others wanting to know.
ron strasser

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rondot@spiritone.com

I need info. from those of you “in the know”.
I am a happy user of SRAM 8 and 9 spd chains which use the powerlock link. I find this very functional. Many years of removing chains with chain tool were kissed goodbye when I discovered the powerlock link. They are easy to install and remove making drivetrain cleaning much more efficient.
Now I find the SRAM 10 spd chain powerlock link cannot be re-used. I say why even have the powerlock link if you have to use a chain tool to remove it, then it gets tossed into the recycling bin? I guess the engineers could not design one that could be re-installed.
I heard a rumor the Wipperman 10 spd link can be re-used as well as used on a SRAM or Shimano chain.
Is this true? An actual fact?
Help me! Help me! I am crying over chain links.
I think this would be good info for more than this simpleton....there might be others wanting to know.
ron strasser