OBRA and USAC

Jim VanSchoonhoven

2002-11-02

I would like to see things change between OBRA and USAC, but it is more

important to see racing in Oregon improve like it has been.



Unless, USAC is going to make some BIG changes, I would say OBRA is better

off doing things the way they have been. The USAC organization is losing

more and more power nationwide. They need OBRA more than we need them.

Every where we go, almost everyone is upset with them. One of the most

common comments Jeremy and I hear is... if there was another organization,

our race would go with them.



One of the main reasons given for being mad at the USAC is, they are not

doing their job in a professional, open manner. Many of their decisions are

based on who you are, where you live, or who you ride for, rather than

fairness and the rules. Here is one example: a radio call to a NORBA

Officer (I will not say his position) about a rule that needed

clarification. Instead of an answer back to the promoter, his reply back

was, well, who is this going to apply to??? The promoter blew up and yelled

back what difference does it make who it is. Reply back, it just does. This

was at a NORBA National Cross Country event.



At a time when racing is more in the news and on TV than ever, USAC is still

having a problem growing membership. On the other hand, OBRA and some of

the other organizations are growing and offering more to their membership

than ever before.



When USAC decides the organization and the people they hire are there to

serve the members, I hope OBRA can work with them. So far, I don't see that

happening and many of the promoters I talk to don't see that happening

either.



I would say go to the meeting, but watch out. If you look at what is

happening in Oregon, we are providing a lot of USAC World Team members by

providing good local races through OBRA. For a state USAC tells everyone

has no racing, we seem to be doing fine. Having said all of this, it sure

would help the Elite riders to have one organization, but only if that

organization is fair, hard working and committed to all levels of racers!!!



Jim VanSchoonhoven



-----Original Message-----

From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]

Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:02 AM

To: obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA and USAC





To be a bit more accurate; Gerard Bisceglia and Matt Murphy will be in town

to attend the American Track Racing Association meeting 11/8 & 9. Bisceglia

asked to meet with me the evening prior to the ATRA meeting. Although I am

sure that OBRA will be part of the discussion, it remains unclear to me

whether he wants to discuss FIAC (I am the FIAC president), ATRA (I am the

treasurer and membership person), Alpenrose, or whatever. Personally I

think that it would definitely not be in OBRA's best interest to even think

about entering any increased relationship with USAC at this time. Let me

know what you think. I certainly would like to be able to adequately

represent the OBRA membership concerns.



Mike Murray



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:41 AM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA and USAC





Members



The new chief executive officer for USAC is coming to meet with OBRA the

week of the 17. Is there anything you all would like discussed?



Candi



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



mike.m-@obra.org

2002-11-02

To be a bit more accurate; Gerard Bisceglia and Matt Murphy will be in town

to attend the American Track Racing Association meeting 11/8 & 9. Bisceglia

asked to meet with me the evening prior to the ATRA meeting. Although I am

sure that OBRA will be part of the discussion, it remains unclear to me

whether he wants to discuss FIAC (I am the FIAC president), ATRA (I am the

treasurer and membership person), Alpenrose, or whatever. Personally I

think that it would definitely not be in OBRA's best interest to even think

about entering any increased relationship with USAC at this time. Let me

know what you think. I certainly would like to be able to adequately

represent the OBRA membership concerns.



Mike Murray



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:41 AM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA and USAC





Members



The new chief executive officer for USAC is coming to meet with OBRA the

week of the 17. Is there anything you all would like discussed?



Candi



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn

2002-11-02

Members



The new chief executive officer for USAC is coming to meet with OBRA the

week of the 17. Is there anything you all would like discussed?



Candi