Shawn.W.Small

it could fulfill my dream/nightmare of making a carbon tall bike
you know for riding and what not

Shawn Small
Entrepreneur | Engineer | Cyclist

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Mark J. Ginsberg
wrote:

> hell, if you are gonna recycle it as trash anyway
>
> see if shawn can cut off the aluminum and make it full carbon!
>
>
>
> Mark J. Ginsberg
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> *From:* Saul Lopez
> *To:* Shawn.W.Small ; "obra@list.obra.org" <
> obra@list.obra.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:45 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Recycling Carbon Frames
>
> Love Oregon and OBRA! Got tons of replies pointing me in your direction,
> Shawn. I would have brought my frames to you for repair, however, they are
> a mix of carbon and aluminum and it was the aluminum portions that got
> beaten up. As far as I know, aluminum frames cannot be fixed. If I have
> been misinformed, let me know. I need a cross bike for the pit and could
> always use a beater to tool around town.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Shawn.W.Small
> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Cc:* salopez@yahoo.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:18 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Recycling Carbon Frames
>
> Saul and everyone else
>
> If the frames/components are still worth anything to you bring them down
> to Ruckus Components and we can repair them as good as new.
>
> Or we use a lot of old frames and components for stress testing in house
> for new repair and finishing methods, currently we are working on an
> awesome DBVARTM process, which I can bore you with if interested.
>
> I actually posted a short entry on our site about CF recycling
> http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/carbon-fiber-recycling/
>
> What some of our customers have us do is turn these older carbon bikes
> into rain our touring bikes with our eyelet services.
> Check it out
> http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/fender-up/
>
> Take care!
>
> Shawn Small
> Entrepreneur | Engineer | Cyclist
>
>
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Mark J. Ginsberg

hell, if you are gonna recycle it as trash anyway

see if shawn can cut off the aluminum and make it full carbon!

Saul Lopez

Love Oregon and OBRA!

Russell Cree

I have Ruckus fix my carbon when it breaks. No need to throw it away. Fix it and keep it riding. We have a great option for that in Portland with Ruckus.

Russell Cree, DPT
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On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:22 PM, don person wrote:

> Ruckus does beautiful repair work.
>
> -shiggy
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Shawn.W.Small wrote:
>> Saul and everyone else
>> If the frames/components are still worth anything to you bring them down to
>> Ruckus Components and we can repair them as good as new.
>> Or we use a lot of old frames and components for stress testing in house for
>> new repair and finishing methods, currently we are working on an awesome
>> DBVARTM process, which I can bore you with if interested.
>> I actually posted a short entry on our site about CF recycling
>> http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/carbon-fiber-recycling/
>> What some of our customers have us do is turn these older carbon bikes into
>> rain our touring bikes with our eyelet services.
>> Check it out
>> http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/fender-up/
>> Take care!
>> Shawn Small
>> Entrepreneur | Engineer | Cyclist
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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don person

Ruckus does beautiful repair work.

-shiggy

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Shawn.W.Small wrote:
> Saul and everyone else
> If the frames/components are still worth anything to you bring them down to
> Ruckus Components and we can repair them as good as new.
> Or we use a lot of old frames and components for stress testing in house for
> new repair and finishing methods, currently we are working on an awesome
> DBVARTM process, which I can bore you with if interested.
> I actually posted a short entry on our site about CF recycling
> http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/carbon-fiber-recycling/
> What some of our customers have us do is turn these older carbon bikes into
> rain our touring bikes with our eyelet services.
> Check it out
> http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/fender-up/
> Take care!
> Shawn Small
> Entrepreneur | Engineer | Cyclist
>
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>

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Shawn.W.Small

Saul and everyone else

If the frames/components are still worth anything to you bring them down to
Ruckus Components and we can repair them as good as new.

Or we use a lot of old frames and components for stress testing in house
for new repair and finishing methods, currently we are working on an
awesome DBVARTM process, which I can bore you with if interested.

I actually posted a short entry on our site about CF recycling
http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/carbon-fiber-recycling/

What some of our customers have us do is turn these older carbon bikes into
rain our touring bikes with our eyelet services.
Check it out
http://www.ruckuscomponents.com/2011/11/fender-up/

Take care!

Shawn Small
Entrepreneur | Engineer | Cyclist

Saul Lopez

Got some busted up frames and parts in my basement for which I have been waiting for something like to contribute to.  Any word from the powers that be at River City or West End if they'll be participating?

"Leave the locker room in better shape than we found it."

Saul

Specialized to Recycle Competitors' Carbon Frames 
SportsOneSource Media     Posted: 11/16/2011
Specialized will accept carbon bicycle frames made by competitors when it kicks off its carbon recycling efforts in January, the California bike maker announced.

Specialized will pick up all carbon frames returned to participating dealers and ship them to Materials Innovation Technology for recycling. Specialized will report back to the industry at the 2012 Eurobike and Interbike shows on the number of frames recycled, the amount of carbon fiber recovered, and what has been learned.

“At that time we will make a formal call for an industry coalition to recycle carbon fiber,” said Bryant Bainbridge, Specialized’s Sustainability Strategist. “This is a shared industry problem and one we all need to address. We are going to pick up the tab now, but we want everyone on board. This is about collaboration, not egos. Come Eurobike, we’ll share everything we’ve learned.”


Specialized will contact its dealers in January about the specifics of how to handle carbon frame returns and the start date for the take back program.

Thousands of carbon fiber bicycles end up in landfills each year, and Specialized wants to change that.

Based on existing carbon fiber recycling programs used by the aerospace industry, Specialized is steering bikes away from the landfills and back into usable goods. The California bicycle company will be doing this by working with bike shops to collect damaged carbon frames and transport them to a U.S. recycler. The program will expand to its EU operations as soon as appropriate resources are identified.

The process of recycling carbon fiber consists of chopping the frame into smaller sections, then burning off the epoxy that holds the fibers together in an oxygen-free environment. This results in shorter fibers with the same properties as the original material that can be used in a variety of ways.

“You’re probably not going to make a bike from recycled carbon, but you can make a range of products with the shorter fibers,” said Bainbridge. “For example, Boeing recycles its stabilizer fins into armrests. Besides keeping these frames out of the landfill, you’re recovering carbon with significantly less energy than it took to make virgin material.”

“Specialized is committed to addressing what happens to our bikes at end of life because it’s the right thing to do. But this program isn’t about being brand exclusive,” Bainbridge said. “Trek is also doing good work here and every company in the industry that produces carbon products is encouraged to join in the effort.”

Specialized recently joined the Outdoor Industry Association Eco-Index working group, and is an active participant in the creation of a comprehensive system for evaluating and improving a product’s environmental footprint.