Ah ... yes ... the burning question we'd all love to have answered with
"Tire X is the right one!". In the last decade of recreational mountain
biking and racing, I've probably gone through 15 different tires. Just
when you think you've nailed down a tire combo/type that works - the
manufacturers have to tweak it, drop that line, add a different tread
pattern ... screw the great order of the tire world.
Some notes from my riding experiences. However, I'm 6'3", 210 lbs - a very
aggressive XC rider (no DH), so my size and what I like are going to be far
different than the original poster. Some general notes
* sadly - I haven't found a Continental MTB tire I like yet
* in fact, the current crop of Conti's scare the SH*T out of me
* WTB makes good all around tires (or used to, haven't ridden recent
versions), but they tend to be heavy
* Kenda Nevegals seemed like good all 'rounders too, but pack up in muddy
conditions
Specific feedback:
On my Huckleberry hardtail 29er - for a lightweight XC race set, I ran the
following:
Continental Race King 2.0 front
Kenda Karma L3R Pro 1.9" rear
I love the guy who recommended these to me. Good thing - I'd have shot him
dead on the spot if this was my only interaction with him. I raced these
at the High Cascade 100 last year. I washed the front tire out 7 times on
loose corners. I carefully kept lowering the pressure to try and get them
to hook up. But these are incredibly lightweight thin casings - and I was
afraid to drop any lower than 25 psi with these - for fear of rolling them
right off the rims. I crashed 4 of those times. Not confidence inspiring.
The Karma seemed to be a fine tire on the rear, it required a lot more
finesse to keep it hooked up, but it would stay hooked up if you were
careful. Continental should be ashamed of themselves for releasing the
Race King.
I switched these to a set of Specialized Captain Pros. Big difference in
weight. The Captain's seemed to hook up and not wash out the front end -
handled pretty well in diverse conditions. But - I haven't run them in the
mud, so I'm not sure how they'd pack up or handle the mud.
On my Specialized S-Works Epic 26er - I've run a number of combinations of
tires. The ones I can remember and how they handled are as follows:
WTB Weriwolf 2.1" front/rear - all around good tire, rolls fast, handles
mixed terrain riding well, but doesn't like mud - packs up quickly - I ran
sets of these for 4 years on my bike - the worked pretty darned well
WTB Velociraptor 2.3" front/rear - great traction, very confidence
inspiring, hold their lines well, handle a wide range of tire pressures
gracefully - heavy as all get out, but I could count on them to hook up in
almost anything - handled mud pretty well; but I wouldn't call them a mud
tire.
Kenda Nevegals - front/rear (I forget size; probably around 2.1" - I
don't believe in wider tires in general) - great traction, very confidence
inspiring, handled predictably - a mix of casing weights to pick from - I
tended to run the heavier casings - tend to be very sensitive to getting
the tire pressure just right to get the traction quality out of them
Continental X-King 2.2" front/rear - I ABSOLUTELY HATE these tires - I
had to run them down to 18 PSI before they'd finally start hooking up and
holding traction - they completely sucked - and at 18 psi - I am absolutely
certain it's only a matter of time before I would roll them off the rim and
kill myself - once again (IMO) - Shame on Continental ...
During the time I rode with the Conti X-Kings, several of the guys around
me were riding the Schwalbe Nobby Nic's. These guys were hooking up,
loving the traction and control. So I yanked my X-Kings off and put
Schwalbe Nobby Nic's on - I haven't ridden the bike sine doing that (they
just went on Thursday night). But, I have high hopes since 3 of the 5
other guys around me had these on their rides, and they had no issues with
traction on hard packed, rocky, rooty, wet and slick, muddy and thick ...
we'll see how they hold up for me.
Best of luck!
~~shane
--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM, eric aldinger wrote:
> I use the Schwalbe Nobby Nic UST. They are a heavier casing, but I use
> them for trail riding and racing in all conditions.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Brady Brady wrote:
>
>> +1 on Nevegals != mud tire.
>>
>> Brady
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:12 AM, "Brian Baumann"
>> wrote:
>>
>> Two sets of tires is the way to go if you have the cash.
>> IMO-Nevegals are not a good option for mud as they tend to pack up, and
>> they are slow rollers. I like the offerings from Schwalbe. Check out
>> their websites and read up on the descriptions. I like the Rocket Rons for
>> dry and am interested in trying the Dirty Dans for mud. Once in a while
>> you can find a deal on a set on ebay. You can go with different tires from
>> and rear, which of course depends on your preferences.
>>
>> Continental also make some great new tires, as does Maxxis.
>>
>> B
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Maggie Rising
>> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 6:32 PM
>> *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] mt. bike tire recommendations
>>
>> I'm looking for recommendations for mt. bike tires from folks out there
>> who have more experience than I do. . . which is pretty much everyone. I
>> ride a 26-er, currently with continental king race, I think. They're worn
>> out, and I keep going by the bike shop to buy new tires but get option
>> madness combined with this sense that I'm trying to make a decision without
>> the right information (i.e.., without experience).
>> Some races this year will be muddy, others will be dusty or
>> hard-packed. Should I have two tires for those opposite conditions?
>> What's the trade-off?
>> Is it worth it to have one tread in front and another tread in back.
>> If I go with a lighter tread, am I going to be spinning wildly at
>> Mudslinger? (assuming it lives up to its name)
>> Which tire will make me a fearless endurance queen?!
>> Oh, and I'll be going tubeless on Mavics.
>> Thanks in advance for your insight and advice.
>> Maggie
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