Millar-Griffin
Hey OBRA-friends,
Is there anyone going from Portland to Seattle that could give me a ride Friday afternoon? I would like to get up there for a Friday evening event. Of course I would chip in gas $$
Sheilagh Griffin
Millar-Griffin
jakeshouseAJM@comcast.net
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> 1. FS: Nordic skate skis, Fischer RCS, Pilot (Jamie Bradley)
> 2. Cherry Pie Road Race Special (Jean Brougher)
> 3. 2010 54 cm Specialized frame for sale (mary Ross)
> 4. Paging John Lim (Leibowitz, Flo)
> 5. The other big Tour winner, not so lucky (Rick Johnson)
> 6. Re: The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> (halfwheelhill@yahoo.com)
> 7. Re: The other big Tour winner, not so lucky (Rick Johnson)
> 8. Re: The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> (halfwheelhill@yahoo.com)
> 9. Re: The other big Tour winner, not so lucky (Troy)
> 10. Re: Group Rides - Observation (Susan Otcenas)
> 11. Re: Group Rides - Observation (rondot@spiritone.com)
> 12. OT: PDX Contractor needed (Brian Baumann)
> 13. WTB: Burley Tail Wagon (Joey French)
> 14. FS: 48cm (ish) Seven Road Frame (Izzy Sederbaum)
> 15. STOLEN SILVER CANNONDALE (Zachary Kovalcik)
> 16. Re: The other big Tour winner, not so lucky (eric aldinger)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:05:43 -0800
> From: Jamie Bradley
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Nordic skate skis, Fischer RCS, Pilot
> Message-ID: <4f2eef272b76a_153964008c635c999f6@lizard.obra.org.mail>
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> FS: Fischer RCS Cold skate skis, skate cut model. 192cm. Salomon Pilot bindings. Would work from someone 160-180+/- lbs depending on conditions and how you want the ski to ski. Great shape. $125. Please contact off list. Thanks.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:50:17 -0800
> From: Jean Brougher
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cherry Pie Road Race Special
> Message-ID: <4f2f3fe9630e8_11fa44008c635c85361@lizard.obra.org.mail>
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> CHERRY PIE ROAD RACE SPECIAL?HALF OFF two-night stay* (Feb. 18 and 19) at the Century House of Salem Bed & Breakfast. We cater to cyclists, with bike-themed art/books, a dry place for bike maintenance/storage and many choices of healthy, homemade foods for athletes.
> Get a good night?s sleep and an energizing breakfast before the race. Later, celebrate your podium finish here by the fire with fresh-from-the-oven cherry pie. After another good sleep and a breakfast of your choice consider a recovery spin around the valley before returning to that other race (i.e., the rat race).
> *Regular prices (before discount) based on double occupancy are $85-95/night plus tax. Additional persons (as room allows) at a rate of $20 each per night.
> Call 503-884-7062 or check centuryhouseofsalembandb.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:19:53 -0800
> From: mary Ross
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2010 54 cm Specialized frame for sale
> Message-ID: <4f2f62f9b3c46_11f9a4008c635c716ac@lizard.obra.org.mail>
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> 2010 Specialized S SWORKS SL-2 Quickstep for sale
> $1150 ? Frame and fork only
> Frame ? FACT IS 11r carbon Fork-Mindset headset with ceramic cartridge bearings,
> Frame Size- 54 cmMonocoque fork with over sized race. See Specialized website for geometry. This frame was well cared for and lightly ridden- it is in great condition
> Email mjross58@comcast.net or call 503-720-7666
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 21:45:46 -0800
> From: "Leibowitz, Flo"
> To: OBRA list
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Paging John Lim
> Message-ID: <822EEDDB-21D7-461F-BF77-11614B3917F1@oregonstate.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Please send your email address so I can send the photos from the Awards dinner.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:37 -0800
> From: Rick Johnson
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Message-ID: <4F2FF961.508@gmail.com>
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> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/news/contador-gets-two-year-ban-from-cas_205693
>
> --
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
> * * *
>
> This news has been sanitized for your preconceptions
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:03:36 +0000
> From: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> To: "Rick Johnson" ,
> obra-bounces@list.obra.org, "OBRA"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
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> I love the fact that he is only suspended until august. UCI=joke.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Johnson
> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:37
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/news/contador-gets-two-year-ban-from-cas_205693
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> --
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:19:15 -0800
> From: Rick Johnson
> To: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Message-ID: <4F2FFD83.5000208@gmail.com>
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> But he loses the all his results for 2011, the Giro win too. That's got
> to sting.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
> * * *
>
> This news has been sanitized for your preconceptions
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>
>
> On 2/6/2012 8:03 AM, halfwheelhill@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I love the fact that he is only suspended until august. UCI=joke.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Johnson
>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:37
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>>
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/news/contador-gets-two-year-ban-from-cas_205693
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:45:01 +0000
> From: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> To: "Rick Johnson"
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Message-ID:
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> He should lose that and be suspended from today. The suspension should have been handed out immediately. The rule for testing positive for Clem is black and white. Any amount found is a automatic 2yr ban.
> ------Original Message------
> From: Rick Johnson
> To: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Sent: Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM
>
> But he loses the all his results for 2011, the Giro win too. That's got
> to sting.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
> * * *
>
> This news has been sanitized for your preconceptions
>
>
>
> On 2/6/2012 8:03 AM, halfwheelhill@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I love the fact that he is only suspended until august. UCI=joke.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Johnson
>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:37
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>>
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/news/contador-gets-two-year-ban-from-cas_205693
>>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:28:15 -0600
> From: "Troy"
> To: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com, "=?utf-8?B?UmljayBKb2huc29u?="
>
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Message-ID: <20120206172822.DF998450AD@list.obra.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> I'm so happy I know what a picogram is now. (picogram is one trillionth of a gram)
> I have a new understanding of "needle in a hay stack"
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> To: "Rick Johnson"
> Cc: "OBRA"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Date: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 10:45 am
>
>
> He should lose that and be suspended from today. The suspension should have been handed out immediately. The rule for testing positive for Clem is black and white. Any amount found is a automatic 2yr ban.
> ------Original Message------
> From: Rick Johnson
> To: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Sent: Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM
>
> But he loses the all his results for 2011, the Giro win too. That's got
> to sting.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend Oregon
>
> * * *
>
> This news has been sanitized for your preconceptions
>
>
>
> On 2/6/2012 8:03 AM, halfwheelhill@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I love the fact that he is only suspended until august. UCI=joke.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Johnson
>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:37
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>>
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/news/contador-gets-two-year-ban-from-cas_205693
>>
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:30:36 -0800
> From: "Susan Otcenas"
> To: "OBRA"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Group Rides - Observation
> Message-ID:
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>>> It is very likely that the riders in question were your basic
> "wannabes" and have no idea of how to ride in a group.
>
> Sheesh. Is it any wonder that bike racers have the image of being
> elitist??
>
> A) News flash: most cycling enthisiasts don't "wannabe" a
> team-kit-wearing bike racer. Get over yourself.
>
> B) Being a team-kit-wearing bike racer doesn't mean that you know how to
> ride in a group, as evidenced by the OP's comment:
>>> Then I see a couple of other teams posting ride pictures on Facebook
> with the same issue, taking up the whole road while on a team ride.
>
> C) Not wearing a team kit says nothing at all about whether you know how
> to ride in a group. Most of my non-racer friends are exceptionally
> conscious of and respectful to other road users. We ride two up when
> conditions permit, but single up when cars approach. How do we know
> cars are approaching? Because we wear (gasp!) eyeglass mirrors that
> allow us to see the cars coming from behind well before we could hear
> them over the sound of wind, conversation and other road noise.
>
> Rather than try to shift the blame for such riding behavior onto
> "others", let's acknowledge that everyone in the cycling community could
> do a better job of being respectful of other road users, and thank Scott
> Jones for the reminder.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:02:53 -0800
> From:
> To: "Susan Otcenas" , "OBRA"
>
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Group Rides - Observation
> Message-ID:
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> reply-type=original
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> Well said Susan!
> Team Issue Lycra is not the 'giver of all truth or invincible armor', just
> as a fixie, messenger bag and no helmet mean the rider is all knowing.
> Anyone can ride a bike like an idiot! I say this from first hand
> experience....I have ridden like an idiot.
> Overall awareness and courtesy for all users of roadways (especially those
> heavy ones with fossil and electric power) will help cyclists now and in the
> future gain respect from other roadway users.
> ron strasser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Otcenas
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:30 AM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Group Rides - Observation
>
>>> It is very likely that the riders in question were your basic
> "wannabes" and have no idea of how to ride in a group.
>
> Sheesh. Is it any wonder that bike racers have the image of being
> elitist??
>
> A) News flash: most cycling enthisiasts don't "wannabe" a
> team-kit-wearing bike racer. Get over yourself.
>
> B) Being a team-kit-wearing bike racer doesn't mean that you know how to
> ride in a group, as evidenced by the OP's comment:
>>> Then I see a couple of other teams posting ride pictures on Facebook
> with the same issue, taking up the whole road while on a team ride.
>
> C) Not wearing a team kit says nothing at all about whether you know how
> to ride in a group. Most of my non-racer friends are exceptionally
> conscious of and respectful to other road users. We ride two up when
> conditions permit, but single up when cars approach. How do we know
> cars are approaching? Because we wear (gasp!) eyeglass mirrors that
> allow us to see the cars coming from behind well before we could hear
> them over the sound of wind, conversation and other road noise.
>
> Rather than try to shift the blame for such riding behavior onto
> "others", let's acknowledge that everyone in the cycling community could
> do a better job of being respectful of other road users, and thank Scott
> Jones for the reminder.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:19:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brian Baumann
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: PDX Contractor needed
> Message-ID:
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> About a week or so ago someone posted about needing a contractor. ?I also have a small job that needs to be done ASAP in order to refi the house. ?If you know of someone in the Portland area who needs some work right away, and has insurance, please email me with their contact info. ?It would be great to hire someone in the OBRA scene if I can.
>
> Cheers!
> Brian
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:32:06 -0800
> From: Joey French
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] WTB: Burley Tail Wagon
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> Hi everyone,
> Looking for a Burly Tail Wagon to drag my dog around with. Anyone have one
> collecting dust in their garage?
>
> Let me know,
> Joey French
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:33:09 -0800
> From: Izzy Sederbaum
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: 48cm (ish) Seven Road Frame
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> Hi all,
>
> I'm selling my Seven Axiom Race (now Axiom SL), which is a custom titanium
> frame. Made in 2010, has about 750 miles on it. Has some scrapes in the
> paint and through the "Seven" decals, which are easily replaced. Other
> than that, frame is in pristine condition.
>
> Included:
> Alpha Q carbon fork
> Chris King headset
>
> Specs:
> 42cm seat tube
> 50.5 effective top tube
>
> I normally ride a 48 or 49 cm bike, so I have a decent amount of seat post
> out. I'm 5'3 and it fits perfectly. I would say that if you ride anything
> from a 44 to a 50 it will fit. Has 700c wheels. Asking $1500 obo, retails
> for about $3300 (frame only).
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/33386705@N04/sets/72157626233703169/
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> -Izzy
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:19:27 -0800
> From: Zachary Kovalcik
> To: "obra@list.obra.org"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] STOLEN SILVER CANNONDALE
> Message-ID: <91BD7913-3058-4713-8D8A-EE3A8B01C1A0@yahoo.com>
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> Silver cannondale no logos SRAM force red bar tape. Stolen from downtown spotted on SE stark.
>
> Zachary Kovalcik
> Black Lodge Cycling
> +1 412 897 8792
> blacklodgecycling.wordpress.com
> zakkovalcik.blogspot.com
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:56:48 -0800
> From: eric aldinger
> To: Troy
> Cc: OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
> Message-ID:
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> That went as well as the beer By August he will have been banned from
> competition for a full two years. He was provisionally banned during the
> court proceedings (which sorta sucks if you are innocent).
> For those keeping a list, these are the current untenable doping defenses:
> The Clem-steak defense.
> The "I saw Lance do it" defense.
> The Amstel-Light-synthetic-testostrone defense.
> The "I don't know how those nine bags of my blood got in Eufemiano Fuentes'
> office" defense.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Troy wrote:
>
>> I'm so happy I know what a picogram is now. (picogram is one trillionth of
>> a gram)
>> I have a new understanding of "needle in a hay stack"
>>
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
>> To: "Rick Johnson"
>> Cc: "OBRA"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>> Date: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 10:45 am
>>
>>
>> He should lose that and be suspended from today. The suspension should
>> have been handed out immediately. The rule for testing positive for Clem is
>> black and white. Any amount found is a automatic 2yr ban.
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Rick Johnson
>> To: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
>> Cc: OBRA
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>> Sent: Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM
>>
>> But he loses the all his results for 2011, the Giro win too. That's got
>> to sting.
>>
>> Rick Johnson
>> Bend Oregon
>>
>> * * *
>>
>> This news has been sanitized for your preconceptions
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/6/2012 8:03 AM, halfwheelhill@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I love the fact that he is only suspended until august. UCI=joke.
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rick Johnson
>>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:37
>>> To: OBRA
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The other big Tour winner, not so lucky
>>>
>>>
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/news/contador-gets-two-year-ban-from-cas_205693
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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