DQ's?

John Wilson

2012-02-22

Ditto on that. We did try to talk to everyone but could not find them. If
anyone has questions about why they were DQ'd all they need to do is ask.

John

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:19 AM
To: Candi Murray ; dacrizzow@gmail.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

Thanks Candi. We did try to talk with those riders. But, with the finish
line a few miles from the parking area, some folks got away before we had a
chance.

Ron

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-----Original Message-----
From: Candi Murray
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:03:23
To: ;
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

DQ's can only be done by the CR. If he needs her email, let me know.

For all officials. DQ's should all be spoken with at the event.
Candi

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie.
he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but
no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the
center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that
without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just
how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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Chipp

2012-02-21

HAHA, way to bust out the big spoon Mark!
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From: Mark J. Ginsberg
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:51 AM
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if only there was an answer for your nameless teammate. a protocol or way for them to do something.

if only page 29 would tell us:

http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2012rules.pdf

I don't know anything about the incident in question, but there are rules and ways to go about complaining. I find our officials to be very willing to explain to people the decisions that they've made. Especially if the DQ'd rider asks nicely.

If your teammate has questions about the process, I am happy to talk with your teammate.

I've always wondered about those lawyers doing those high end cyclist drug cases. Maybe I could add OBRA DQ defense work to my quiver. Afterall, I've got some free time now that I gave away the RV!

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie. he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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Mark J. Ginsberg

2012-02-21

if only there was an answer for your nameless teammate. a protocol or way for them to do something.

if only page 29 would tell us:

http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2012rules.pdf

Candi Murray

2012-02-21

One last thing, to all the officials. The reason for the DQ should be
listed on the results. It should say DQ, centerline (or whatever) Just
listing a blanket dq does not educate anyone.
Just saying......
Candi

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie.
he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but
no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the
center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that
without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just
how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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Ron Frerichs

2012-02-21

Thanks Candi. We did try to talk with those riders. But, with the finish line a few miles from the parking area, some folks got away before we had a chance.

Ron

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-----Original Message-----
From: Candi Murray
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:03:23
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DQ's can only be done by the CR. If he needs her email, let me know.

For all officials. DQ's should all be spoken with at the event.
Candi

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie.
he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but
no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the
center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that
without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just
how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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Ron Frerichs

2012-02-21

As one of the official's working Cherry Pie, I'm pretty offended by being accused of randomly DQ'ing people.

Have a little respect for the people trying to make your racing safe and fair for all riders.

And, if you're going to call people out, sign your e-mail.

Just like every other race, your teammate should contact the Chief Ref, Terri Camp. She'll tell him exactly why he was DQ'd.

Ron Frerichs

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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:18:23
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Subject: [OBRA Chat] DQ's?

just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie. he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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Candi Murray

2012-02-21

DQ's can only be done by the CR. If he needs her email, let me know.

For all officials. DQ's should all be spoken with at the event.
Candi

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just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie.
he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but
no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the
center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that
without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just
how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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halfwheelhill@yahoo.com

2012-02-21

There should have been a reason why on the results sheet. Maybe he got caught pissing in public before the race.

Scott
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just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie. he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?
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dacrizzow

2012-02-21

just curious here. one of my team mates was DQ'd at sunday's Cherry Pie. he's been routed to three different people to tell him why he was DQ'd but no one can tell him anything. more than like it wouldn't have been the center line rule, he was off the front most of his race. it would seem that without a reason for this DQ then he should get a placing. or is this "just how it is?" random DQ's with no reason?

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