Harry Phinney

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 12:41 -0700, STEVEN R HOLLAND wrote:

> When Mr Aucker started the race way back when, I believe the intention
> was to have a race/course that was flat and "easy", thus the name.
> [David correct me if I'm wrong]

I remember it being related to the delicious baked prize list created by
Sarah. One of the early courses featured Pugh Rd into Fayettville which
was not gravel at the time (it is now) but was quite rough with large
potholes resulting in multiple crashes. I recall John Platt standing
dazed by the side of the road after a particularly hard fall.

Harry Phinney
>
> From: Danny Knudsen
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OMG Gravel! POC WTF WWJD
>
>
> I ask you to take a step back,and how much fun that they had. I also
> ask this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic and
> asked the to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he
> could not have any mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don’t want
> to mess up your bike then you always have PIR. If you want to have
> fun, get faster and stronger please come out and race.
>
> Danny Knudsen
> President Presto Velo
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"You smell that?!...That dusty, gritty, earthy, freshly honed rock smell?!......I love the smell of gravel in the morning...it smells like........like victory!"
..."And if I say its safe to race this gravel, then its safe to race this gravel!!"
Rockert Duvall
"Arockalypse Now"

See (most of) ya Saturday!

Love & Touchup Paint,

Scott McCanna
Pacific Power Blue Sky
Salem

----- Reply message -----
From: "William Laubernds"
To: "Danny Knudsen"
Cc:
Subject: [OBRA Chat] OMG Gravel! POC WTF WWJD
Date: Thu, Apr 5, 2012 11:48 am
I can't wait. Thanks for putting on a race at such an awesome venue with some good distance to accompany it.

See you Saturday.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Danny Knudsen wrote:

I ask you to take a step back, last year we had more riders state that this is the hardest RR of the year in Oregon and how much fun that they had. I also ask this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic and asked the to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he could not have any mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don’t want to mess up your bike then you always have PIR. If you want to have fun, get faster and stronger please come out and race.

Danny Knudsen

President Presto Velo

Bicycleattorney Cycling Team

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Gordie Cumming

Here's a real simple solution.

1. If you like a course like this RACE.
2. If you don't like a course like this DON'T RACE.

Pretty simple.

Gordie

T. Kenji Sugahara

you'll be fine Steve. Just wear your elbow pads.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:41 PM, STEVEN R HOLLAND wrote:

> Danny,
>
> I have a solution to the "gravel issue". [Unfortunately it will not help
> for this years event[image: :( sad]]
>
> If you use the same course next year, change the name to "Amity Roubaix".
>
> When Mr Aucker started the race way back when, I believe the intention
> was to have a race/course that was flat and "easy", thus the name. [David
> correct me if I'm wrong]
>
> So when us "old timers" hear the course has gravel and learn " *last year
> we had more riders state that this is the hardest RR of the year in Oregon
> *" it does not seem to keep to "tradition". Not that that's a bad thing.
>
> So a simple name change should alleviate this "gravel issue" for next
> year.
>
> BTW: I believe last year 69 of the racers would not agree with the course
> being "fun", that is how many DNF's there were, an unusually high #. Then
> again, maybe they would[image: ;) winking]
>
> In any case, thanks for promoting the race!! [I will not be attending
> however, I have an allergy to gravel]
>
> STEVEN R HOLLAND
> C(360) 600-2702
>
> *From:* Danny Knudsen
> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] OMG Gravel! POC WTF WWJD
>
> I ask you to take a step back,and how much fun that they had. I also ask
> this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic and asked the
> to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he could not have any
> mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don

STEVEN R HOLLAND

Danny,
 
I have a solution to the "gravel issue". [Unfortunately it will not help for this years event]
 
If you use the same course next year, change the name to "Amity Roubaix".
 
When Mr Aucker started the race way back when, I believe the intention was to have a race/course that was flat and "easy", thus the name. [David correct me if I'm wrong]
 
So when us "old timers" hear the course has gravel and learn " last year we had more riders state that this is the hardest RR of the year in Oregon"  it does not seem to keep to "tradition". Not that that's a bad thing.
 
So a simple name change should alleviate this "gravel issue" for next year.
 
BTW: I believe last year 69 of the racers would not agree with the course being "fun", that is how many DNF's there were, an unusually high #. Then again, maybe they would  
 
In any case, thanks for promoting the race!! [I will not be attending however, I have an allergy to gravel]

STEVEN R HOLLAND
C(360) 600-2702

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From: Danny Knudsen
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OMG Gravel! POC WTF WWJD

I ask you to take a step back,and how much fun that they had. I also ask this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic and asked the to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he could not have any mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don’t want to mess up your bike then you always have PIR. If you want to have fun, get faster and stronger please come out and race.

Danny Knudsen
President Presto Velo
Bicycleattorney Cycling Team
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Dan Grabski

On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:41, Danny Knudsen wrote:

> If you don

William Laubernds

I can't wait. Thanks for putting on a race at such an awesome venue with
some good distance to accompany it.

See you Saturday.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Danny Knudsen wrote:

> I ask you to take a step back, last year we had more riders state that
> this is the hardest RR of the year in Oregon and how much fun that they
> had. I also ask this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic
> and asked the to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he could
> not have any mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don

Danny Knudsen

I ask you to take a step back, last year we had more riders state that this is the hardest RR of the year in Oregon and how much fun that they had. I also ask this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic and asked the to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he could not have any mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don’t want to mess up your bike then you always have PIR. If you want to have fun, get faster and stronger please come out and race.

Danny Knudsen
President Presto Velo
Bicycleattorney Cycling Team

David Root

I second that! We already have Eugene Roubaix and CX. Last year I raced POC and lost my water bottle on a huge pot hole, cracked loose my bars and flatted. I will still race it though because the forecast is dry and I have always loved Piece of Cake RR. I do think attendance would be better if it were all paved like the Classic POC of David Auker years when OBRA membership was 1/4 of what it is now. Just sayin. I love a good challenging course but 2-3 inch deep rocky gravel and pot holes that will swallow your wheel, on road bikes?? If we had Belgian cobbles I would much prefere that, at least the cobbles stay in place. Plus the gravel ruins a nice new bikes finish in one race, so race your old bike if you have one. Good luck.

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On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Quinn Keogh wrote:

> Let me be the first to complain about the gravel at Piece of Cake... There was gravel, I was scared. OK, all done. Thanks.
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Quinn Keogh

Let me be the first to complain about the gravel at Piece of Cake... There was gravel, I was scared. OK, all done. Thanks.