Mark J. Ginsberg
John,
Your French wife is using your email account again!
M
Mark J. Ginsberg
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From: John Bravard
To: "obra@list.obra.org"
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] "Roubaix" & WWQKD?
I gotta publicly state my objection to using the name "Roubaix" in most races using the name. "Roubaix" does not mean that a race has gravel, dirt, cobble stones, or hordes of 3-pack-a-day smokers lining the course. Roubaix is the name of a city in France. Paris-Roubaix is so named not for any of the aforementioned attributes, but because the race starts in (or near) Paris and ends in Roubaix.
On Apr 5, 2012, at 12:41 PM, STEVEN R HOLLAND wrote:
Danny,
>
>I have a solution to the "gravel issue". [Unfortunately it will not help for this years event]
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>If you use the same course next year, change the name to "Amity Roubaix".
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>When Mr Aucker started the race way back when, I believe the intention was to have a race/course that was flat and "easy", thus the name. [David correct me if I'm wrong]
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>So when us "old timers" hear the course has gravel and learn " last year we had more riders state that this is the hardest RR of the year in Oregon" it does not seem to keep to "tradition". Not that that's a bad thing.
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>So a simple name change should alleviate this "gravel issue" for next year.
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>BTW: I believe last year 69 of the racers would not agree with the course being "fun", that is how many DNF's there were, an unusually high #. Then again, maybe they would
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>In any case, thanks for promoting the race!! [I will not be attending however, I have an allergy to gravel]
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>STEVEN R HOLLAND
>C(360) 600-2702
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>From: Danny Knudsen
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OMG Gravel! POC WTF WWJD
>
>I ask you to take a step back,and how much fun that they had. I also ask this, Do you email the Promoter of Mt. Hood Cycling Classic and asked the to make the hill easier or Call Brad Ross and ask if he could not have any mud or dismounts in a cross race. If you don’t want to mess up your bike then you always have PIR. If you want to have fun, get faster and stronger please come out and race.
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>Danny Knudsen
>President Presto Velo
>Bicycleattorney Cycling Team
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