closing the gap

Candi Murray

2012-04-11

We have destructed the straights of the velodrome and already have poured
replacement. The feedback from riders who have been out on the track has
been extremely positive.

The estimate for this was $40K. As is the case with most construction the
actual bill was $51K. We have raised $34 K currently from 199 members from
New Zealand to Chicago and Seattle to LA.

The next phase is to replace the apron. (The flat portion that is the inside
of the track. That estimate is also $50K.

OBRA is a 501c3 so any contribution would be TAX DEDUCTIBLE

Candi

From: Rick Johnson [mailto:rickcjohnson1@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:26 PM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

Candi,
That's a very good idea. Can you provide me with a "quick facts" summary for
that purpose? It would be helpful if I could summarize the scope, costs and
donation response in the pitch.

Also, as I understand the retail end of the bike business this is a poor
time to expect much response from shops. However, I will make an appeal to
Hutch's that could result in a response later in the season. I suggest
considering soliciting pledges from other businesses in the same
circumstances.

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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On 4/11/2012 11:16 AM, Candi Murray wrote:

I hate hitting you all over the head with this on a weekly basis. Kenji
included out plight on the monthly newsletter, but it generated very little.
Maybe if each of you forwarded it to your team list or If you are on
another cycling remailer, we might get some people who are not on the OBRA
site. If there were 5000 OBRA members last year, it just seems that 199
contributors is a little low, IMHO

Candi

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:49 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

Thanks for the support Ron. Even though you only want to ride on dirt and I
think that dirt is for potatoes and will only race on pavement, we both
agree that the Alpenrose Dairy has been instrumental in supporting all types
of bike racing in Oregon. Donations have slowed down. It is time to give
back. We are about $15,000 short of paying for the first phase of this
project. We still need funds for the second phase of the project which will
be replacement of the apron, planned for next fall when the weather is a bit
drier. Phase 2 is going to be about the same cost as phase 1 and currently
it is not funded. I want to thank all the people that have donated so far.
Please consider donating either through the OBRA web site,
https://obra.org/alpenrose/donate, or by sending to:

Alpenrose Renovation Project

Portland Velodrome Committee

4318 SE 8th Ct.

Gresham, OR 97080

Mike Murray

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of rondot@spiritone.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:27
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome repair. I
do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern or even Central
Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this facility as people in
the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA storage and general use of the
Dairy area for races, clinics as well as velodrome do impact all racers in
the state in that it allows OBRA to keep license costs low.

My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point where
payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers members, that
either a one or two year increase in license fee (except for Juniors) be
considered by the governors / membership.

Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to the
overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls, Vancouver,
Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget, Grant's Pass, Salem,
Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene, Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and
now even Ontario make me believe we all can help each area find success at
the community and individual levels.

I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this
repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other needed
projects within our communities (be they support programs or build projects)
can use this momentum to better support access to all levels and disciplines
of racing. As an example. I fully support the idea of a velodrome in the
Bend area if they can get that seed support started. If it looks like a go,
I would be more than happy to help them make it happen. This even though I
will not race Track on it or Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to
try it). If it was dirt, I might be interested.

My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help OBRA
racers.

Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard and do
the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you gotta go! I
say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have enough of
them....to minimize rebel urinators!

thanks for reading.

ron strasser

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Candi Murray

2012-04-11

These are the teams that riders from them have made donations. I think that Portland Velo, Hammer Velo and Sorella Forte lead the pack ;-)

Aeolus Endurance

Beaverton Bicycle Club

Bellovaci United

Bend Memorial Clinic Total Care Racing Team

bicycleattorney.com

Bike Central

Bouledougue Tout Noir

Bull Run Distilling/CycleOne

Capitol Velo

Core Techs Cycling Team

crank

Cyclepath Racing

Cyclesport.com Racing presented by Brihop

Dr Will Bar

Embrocation Cycling

Field Jerger Cycling

Fred Meyer Cycling

Gentle Lovers

Half Fast Velo presented by Ninkasi Brewing

Hammer Velo

Harder Cycling

HPC

HUP United

Hutch's Eugene

Hutch's/Bend

Ironclad Performance Wear

Jens Voigt's Army

Keller Rohrback cycling

Multnomah Athletic Club

Olson's Bicycles

Pacific Power Blue Sky

Portland Velo

Project london

RAO/Imperial River Racing

Rebound/Tireless Velo

Rogue

Ruckus Test Team

Slalom Consulting Team

Sorella Forte

Sorella Forte p/b St Honor� Bakery

Staccato Gelato

Stormwater NW

Sunnyside Sports

Sweatpea Ladies Auxiliay

Team Beer

Team Bell Lap

Team Cthulhu

Team ESC Sports- Bio Racer

Team NW Natural

Team Oregon presented by Laurelwood Brewing

Team Rose City

Team S&M

The Goon Squad

Therapeutic Associates PDX Cycling

Trusty Switchblade

United Finance

Upper Echelon Fitness

Veloce Racing

West Coast Women's Cycling Team

West End Bikes/Specialized

Western Bike Works

Word-RCB by Cyclisme

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Leibowitz, Flo
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:48 AM
To: OBRA list (obra@list.obra.org)
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

How many of the registered OBRA teams have made a team contribution to date? I’d hope that is a very high percentage!

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:17 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I hate hitting you all over the head with this on a weekly basis. Kenji included out plight on the monthly newsletter, but it generated very little. Maybe if each of you forwarded it to your team list or If you are on another cycling remailer, we might get some people who are not on the OBRA site. If there were 5000 OBRA members last year, it just seems that 199 contributors is a little low, IMHO

Candi

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:49 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

Thanks for the support Ron. Even though you only want to ride on dirt and I think that dirt is for potatoes and will only race on pavement, we both agree that the Alpenrose Dairy has been instrumental in supporting all types of bike racing in Oregon. Donations have slowed down. It is time to give back. We are about $15,000 short of paying for the first phase of this project. We still need funds for the second phase of the project which will be replacement of the apron, planned for next fall when the weather is a bit drier. Phase 2 is going to be about the same cost as phase 1 and currently it is not funded. I want to thank all the people that have donated so far. Please consider donating either through the OBRA web site, https://obra.org/alpenrose/donate, or by sending to:

Alpenrose Renovation Project

Portland Velodrome Committee

4318 SE 8th Ct.

Gresham, OR 97080

Mike Murray

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of rondot@spiritone.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:27
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome repair. I do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern or even Central Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this facility as people in the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA storage and general use of the Dairy area for races, clinics as well as velodrome do impact all racers in the state in that it allows OBRA to keep license costs low.

My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point where payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers members, that either a one or two year increase in license fee (except for Juniors) be considered by the governors / membership.

Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to the overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls, Vancouver, Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget, Grant’s Pass, Salem, Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene, Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and now even Ontario make me believe we all can help each area find success at the community and individual levels.

I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other needed projects within our communities (be they support programs or build projects) can use this momentum to better support access to all levels and disciplines of racing. As an example. I fully support the idea of a velodrome in the Bend area if they can get that seed support started. If it looks like a go, I would be more than happy to help them make it happen. This even though I will not race Track on it or Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to try it). If it was dirt, I might be interested.

My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help OBRA racers.

Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard and do the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you gotta go! I say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have enough of them....to minimize rebel urinators!

thanks for reading.

ron strasser

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Not that you should wait to donate but also don't forget Upper Echelon will be throwing a benefit on 4/27 from 7-10pm.

Here's a link for more info

http://www.upperechelonfitness.com/about-us/blog/2012/4/4/alpenrose-renovation-fundraiser-party-on-friday-april-27th/


Leibowitz, Flo

2012-04-11

How many of the registered OBRA teams have made a team contribution to date? I’d hope that is a very high percentage!

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:17 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I hate hitting you all over the head with this on a weekly basis. Kenji included out plight on the monthly newsletter, but it generated very little. Maybe if each of you forwarded it to your team list or If you are on another cycling remailer, we might get some people who are not on the OBRA site. If there were 5000 OBRA members last year, it just seems that 199 contributors is a little low, IMHO
Candi

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:49 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

Thanks for the support Ron. Even though you only want to ride on dirt and I think that dirt is for potatoes and will only race on pavement, we both agree that the Alpenrose Dairy has been instrumental in supporting all types of bike racing in Oregon. Donations have slowed down. It is time to give back. We are about $15,000 short of paying for the first phase of this project. We still need funds for the second phase of the project which will be replacement of the apron, planned for next fall when the weather is a bit drier. Phase 2 is going to be about the same cost as phase 1 and currently it is not funded. I want to thank all the people that have donated so far. Please consider donating either through the OBRA web site, https://obra.org/alpenrose/donate, or by sending to:

Alpenrose Renovation Project
Portland Velodrome Committee
4318 SE 8th Ct.
Gresham, OR 97080

Mike Murray

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of rondot@spiritone.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:27
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome repair. I do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern or even Central Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this facility as people in the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA storage and general use of the Dairy area for races, clinics as well as velodrome do impact all racers in the state in that it allows OBRA to keep license costs low.
My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point where payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers members, that either a one or two year increase in license fee (except for Juniors) be considered by the governors / membership.
Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to the overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls, Vancouver, Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget, Grant’s Pass, Salem, Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene, Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and now even Ontario make me believe we all can help each area find success at the community and individual levels.
I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other needed projects within our communities (be they support programs or build projects) can use this momentum to better support access to all levels and disciplines of racing. As an example. I fully support the idea of a velodrome in the Bend area if they can get that seed support started. If it looks like a go, I would be more than happy to help them make it happen. This even though I will not race Track on it or Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to try it). If it was dirt, I might be interested.
My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help OBRA racers.
Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard and do the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you gotta go! I say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have enough of them....to minimize rebel urinators!
thanks for reading.
ron strasser
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Candi Murray

2012-04-11

I hate hitting you all over the head with this on a weekly basis. Kenji included out plight on the monthly newsletter, but it generated very little. Maybe if each of you forwarded it to your team list or If you are on another cycling remailer, we might get some people who are not on the OBRA site. If there were 5000 OBRA members last year, it just seems that 199 contributors is a little low, IMHO

Candi

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:49 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

Thanks for the support Ron. Even though you only want to ride on dirt and I think that dirt is for potatoes and will only race on pavement, we both agree that the Alpenrose Dairy has been instrumental in supporting all types of bike racing in Oregon. Donations have slowed down. It is time to give back. We are about $15,000 short of paying for the first phase of this project. We still need funds for the second phase of the project which will be replacement of the apron, planned for next fall when the weather is a bit drier. Phase 2 is going to be about the same cost as phase 1 and currently it is not funded. I want to thank all the people that have donated so far. Please consider donating either through the OBRA web site, https://obra.org/alpenrose/donate, or by sending to:

Alpenrose Renovation Project

Portland Velodrome Committee

4318 SE 8th Ct.

Gresham, OR 97080

Mike Murray

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of rondot@spiritone.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:27
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome repair. I do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern or even Central Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this facility as people in the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA storage and general use of the Dairy area for races, clinics as well as velodrome do impact all racers in the state in that it allows OBRA to keep license costs low.

My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point where payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers members, that either a one or two year increase in license fee (except for Juniors) be considered by the governors / membership.

Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to the overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls, Vancouver, Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget, Grant’s Pass, Salem, Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene, Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and now even Ontario make me believe we all can help each area find success at the community and individual levels.

I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other needed projects within our communities (be they support programs or build projects) can use this momentum to better support access to all levels and disciplines of racing. As an example. I fully support the idea of a velodrome in the Bend area if they can get that seed support started. If it looks like a go, I would be more than happy to help them make it happen. This even though I will not race Track on it or Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to try it). If it was dirt, I might be interested.

My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help OBRA racers.

Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard and do the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you gotta go! I say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have enough of them....to minimize rebel urinators!

thanks for reading.

ron strasser

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Rick Johnson

2012-04-11

I agree with Ron's proposal. As I said the last time we visited the
subject the OBRA annual license cost is a bargain at twice the price.
This is not the first occasion where additional funding to continue
important OBRAs programs has been necessary. I believe a modest
adjustment is in fact long overdue. By way of comparison a BTA
membership is $40 and IMBA $30.

From a budget perspective when the cost of providing services exceeds
the income that is the time to consider how to better balance that
budget. I doubt anyone here could seriously say we should be cutting
back on OBRA services. I hope someone will point out the last time there
was an OBRA membership cost increase because all I know is it's been a
long time and I'm quite sure the cost of everything has increased
significantly since that time.

I have made my contribution to Alpenrose even though I've never even
been there. As Ron also said it would be nice to hope that other people
will likewise support the upcoming Bend Velodrome Project in the same
spirit.

Rick

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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This news has been sanitized for your preconceptions

On 4/11/2012 10:26 AM, rondot@spiritone.com wrote:
> I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome
> repair. I do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern
> or even Central Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this
> facility as people in the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA
> storage and general use of the Dairy area for races, clinics as well
> as velodrome do impact all racers in the state in that it allows OBRA
> to keep license costs low.
> My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point
> where payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers
> members, that either a one or two year increase in license fee (except
> for Juniors) be considered by the governors / membership.
> Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to
> the overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls,
> Vancouver, Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget,
> Grant's Pass, Salem, Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene,
> Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and now even Ontario make me believe
> we all can help each area find success at the community and individual
> levels.
> I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this
> repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other
> needed projects within our communities (be they support programs or
> build projects) can use this momentum to better support access to all
> levels and disciplines of racing. As an example. I fully support the
> idea of a velodrome in the Bend area if they can get that seed support
> started. If it looks like a go, I would be more than happy to help
> them make it happen. This even though I will not race Track on it or
> Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to try it). If it was
> dirt, I might be interested.
> My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help
> OBRA racers.
> Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard
> and do the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you
> gotta go! I say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have
> enough of them....to minimize rebel urinators!
> thanks for reading.
> ron strasser
>
>
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Mike Murray

2012-04-11

Thanks for the support Ron. Even though you only want to ride on dirt and I think that dirt is for potatoes and will only race on pavement, we both agree that the Alpenrose Dairy has been instrumental in supporting all types of bike racing in Oregon. Donations have slowed down. It is time to give back. We are about $15,000 short of paying for the first phase of this project. We still need funds for the second phase of the project which will be replacement of the apron, planned for next fall when the weather is a bit drier. Phase 2 is going to be about the same cost as phase 1 and currently it is not funded. I want to thank all the people that have donated so far. Please consider donating either through the OBRA web site, https://obra.org/alpenrose/donate, or by sending to:

Alpenrose Renovation Project

Portland Velodrome Committee

4318 SE 8th Ct.

Gresham, OR 97080

Mike Murray

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of rondot@spiritone.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:27
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] closing the gap

I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome repair. I do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern or even Central Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this facility as people in the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA storage and general use of the Dairy area for races, clinics as well as velodrome do impact all racers in the state in that it allows OBRA to keep license costs low.

My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point where payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers members, that either a one or two year increase in license fee (except for Juniors) be considered by the governors / membership.

Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to the overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls, Vancouver, Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget, Grant’s Pass, Salem, Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene, Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and now even Ontario make me believe we all can help each area find success at the community and individual levels.

I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other needed projects within our communities (be they support programs or build projects) can use this momentum to better support access to all levels and disciplines of racing. As an example. I fully support the idea of a velodrome in the Bend area if they can get that seed support started. If it looks like a go, I would be more than happy to help them make it happen. This even though I will not race Track on it or Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to try it). If it was dirt, I might be interested.

My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help OBRA racers.

Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard and do the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you gotta go! I say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have enough of them....to minimize rebel urinators!

thanks for reading.

ron strasser

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rondot@spiritone.com

2012-04-11

I want to make a suggestion regarding full payment of Velodrome repair. I do not want to presume that racers in Southern, far Eastern or even Central Oregon have as much direct access to the use of this facility as people in the Willamette Valley area, but FREE OBRA storage and general use of the Dairy area for races, clinics as well as velodrome do impact all racers in the state in that it allows OBRA to keep license costs low.
My suggestion is if the donations for this repair taper to the point where payment obligation might impact other programs OBRA offers members, that either a one or two year increase in license fee (except for Juniors) be considered by the governors / membership.
Yes, I live in Portland, but think all things OBRA are connected to the overall success of our organization. Races in Klamath Falls, Vancouver, Ashland, Bend, Corvallis, Hood River, Baker, Blodget, Grant’s Pass, Salem, Government Camp, Sisters, Echo, Eugene, Prineville, Astoria, The Dalles and now even Ontario make me believe we all can help each area find success at the community and individual levels.
I hope members can come through with some agreement that can make this repair a success. If this can be done with statewide support, other needed projects within our communities (be they support programs or build projects) can use this momentum to better support access to all levels and disciplines of racing. As an example. I fully support the idea of a velodrome in the Bend area if they can get that seed support started. If it looks like a go, I would be more than happy to help them make it happen. This even though I will not race Track on it or Alpenrose (no matter how many people tell me to try it). If it was dirt, I might be interested.
My bottom line is lets support these projects and programs that help OBRA racers.
Now you can sit in a circle on the floor and discuss or at a keyboard and do the same........but for God,s sake use the port-a-potty if you gotta go! I say yes attach an increase in race cost if needed to have enough of them....to minimize rebel urinators!
thanks for reading.
ron strasser