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Mark, that is no longer accepted practice. Ending a sentence with a preposition is fine in current usage. For that matter the only reason such an action was ever considered improper came from our reliance on Latin as the ostensible root of our language. Of course it isn't the root. We instead speak a language which is one of the most complex mishmash combinations in the world.
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From: mark.sc-@milliman.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:50 AM
To: cmur-@obra.org
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Off topic, stolen from the Northern California group
One addition:
A sentence should not end with a preposition. "Where is it AT?" should be "Where is it?".
Mark Schwyhart
cmur-@obra.org
03/06/03 10:11 AM
To: ob-@topica.com @ INTERNET
cc: (bcc: Mark Schwyhart/PTLD/M&R)
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Off topic, stolen from the Northern California group
I changed some of the locations to make it more appropriate
Number Nazis are nothing. The Grammar Nazis are rising up in anger.
"Your" is the possessive for of "you" as in "your car," "your bike" or "your
camera".
"You're" is a contraction of "you are" as in "You're going to have a good
finish in your race."
"Its" is the possessive form of "it" as in "The camera didn't come with its
correct battery."
"It's" is the contraction of "it is" as in "It's going to be a long day
since the camera came without its battery."
"To" is a preposition, as in "I'm going to Banana belt and I'm going to
choke
the next person who complains about the camera."
"Too" is an adverb used as in "There is way too much garbage online by
people who haven't gone to the trouble to find out about the camera and its
difficulties."
"Two" is a number, as in "My two cents" or "I was number two but the camera
didn't see me because it came without its proper manual."
"There" is a preposition, used as in "I heard about the problems in Cherry
Pie
and I wasn't there but here's what I think anyway."
"They're" is the contraction of "They Are", used as in "They're spending way
too much time online carping about problems they haven't gone to the trouble
of learning about."
"Their" is the possessive form of "They", used as in "Their finish was
properly scored, but they're spending way too much time online carping about
the race not being scored to fiftieth place, which is funny since nearly all
the riders after tenth sat up or had their numbers on wrong and no one could
read them, with or without a camera."
GOT IT?!?
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in print long enough for people to stumble over your bad grammar. If we
have stop to figure out what you've written, your two cents get spent in
frustration.
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<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Mark, that is no longer accepted practice. Ending a sentence with a preposition is fine in current usage. For that matter the only reason such an action was ever considered improper came from our reliance on Latin as the ostensible root of our language. Of course it isn't the root. We instead speak a language which is one of the most complex mishmash combinations in the world. </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> mark.sc-@milliman.com</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:50 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> cmur-@obra.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Cc:</B> ob-@topica.com</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OBRA Chat] Off topic, stolen from the Northern California group</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>One addition:<BR><BR>A sentence should not end with a preposition. "Where is it AT?" should be "Where is it?".<BR><BR>Mark Schwyhart<BR><BR><BR><BR>cmur-@obra.org<BR>03/06/03 10:11 AM<BR><BR>To: ob-@topica.com @ INTERNET<BR>cc: (bcc: Mark Schwyhart/PTLD/M&R)<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Off topic, stolen from the Northern California group<BR><BR>I changed some of the locations to make it more appropriate<BR><BR><BR>Number Nazis are nothing. The Grammar Nazis are rising up in anger.<BR><BR>"Your" is the possessive for of "you" as in "your car," "your bike" or "your<BR>camera".<BR><BR>"You're" is a contraction of "you are" as in "You're going to have a good<BR>finish in your race."<BR><BR>"Its" is the possessive form of "it" as in "The camera didn't come with its<BR>correct battery."<BR><BR>"It's" is the contraction of "it is" as in "It's going to be a long day<BR>since the camera came without its battery."<BR><BR>"To" is a preposition, as in "I'm going to Banana belt and I'm going to<BR>choke<BR>the next person who complains about the camera."<BR><BR>"Too" is an adverb used as in "There is way too much garbage online by<BR>people who haven't gone to the trouble to find out about the camera and its<BR>difficulties."<BR><BR>"Two" is a number, as in "My two cents" or "I was number two but the camera<BR>didn't see me because it came without its proper manual."<BR><BR>"There" is a preposition, used as in "I heard about the problems in Cherry<BR>Pie<BR>and I wasn't there but here's what I think anyway."<BR><BR>"They're" is the contraction of "They Are", used as in "They're spending way<BR>too much time online carping about problems they haven't gone to the trouble<BR>of learning about."<BR><BR>"Their" is the possessive form of "They", used as in "Their finish was<BR>properly scored, but they're spending way too much time online carping about<BR>the race not being scored to fiftieth place, which is funny since nearly all<BR>the riders after tenth sat up or had their numbers on wrong and no one could<BR>read them, with or without a camera."<BR><BR>GOT IT?!?<BR><BR><BR>If you have to write something to the list, remember that it's going to be<BR>in print long enough for people to stumble over your bad grammar. If we<BR>have stop to figure out what you've written, your two cents get spent in<BR>frustration.<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com<BR>To unsubscribe send to obra-unsubscribeR><BR><BR>**********************************************************************<BR>This communication is intended solely for the addressee and is<BR>confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure,<BR>copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in<BR>reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless indicated<BR>to the contrary: it does not constitute professional advice or<BR>opinions upon which reliance may be made by the addressee or any<BR>other party, and it should be considered to be a work in progress.<BR>**********************************************************************<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com<BR>To unsubscribe send to obra-unsubscribe/HTML>
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