Armsttong

Rick Johnson

2012-08-24

I think that is a question that will have to be answered some day -
where do we draw the line and say enough with perpetually trying to
rewrite history?
The way things are going it seems like it won't be long before we're
exhuming bodies in a quest to find the last guy who wasn't doing
something we find disagreeable in hindsight.

At the time everyone sure seemed entertained...

Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon

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On 8/24/2012 9:44 AM, SPENCER BOHABOY wrote:
> Ok, If everyone was doping, is it appropriate that Lance is stripped?
> A few years ago I went and heard Greg Lemond give a talk. He
> commented that after coming back from a injury (invovling a shotgun),
> he was astounded at how much the peleton had changed. It was so much
> faster that just a few years before, that with out doping a rider
> could not even be there.
> I wonder, if they should pass an amensty and just move on. Most sports
> change various rules at various times that affects the statistical
> history. I just happened to be that Lance won during the steriod years.
>
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 09:22 AM, joec@aracnet.com wrote:
>
>> To (mis-)qoute Charles Barkley:
>> No athlete should be looked up to as a role-model. That is the job for
>> parents.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:29:02 -0700, Craig Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> > Even though he is likely guilty it's a sad day for all of us that were
>> > brought such enjoyment during Armstrong's run. I hope we can look
>> > to Van Garderan, Boswell, and Phinney among others to restore
>> > American cycling at the big show.
>> >
>> > Just add Lance to my growing list of great athlete's that are not role
>> > models - see Tiger, MJ, now Armstrong, who is next?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:53 PM, johnfforbes@comcast.net
>> [1] wrote:
>> >
>> > So he isn't contesting USDA's charges anymore. Stripped of all tour
>> > wins, medal from the Olympic's and all prize money.
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Dan H

2012-08-24

Okay, e everybody who cares about doping go read "from Lance to Landis"
You will be convinced that 98% of the pro peleton is doping in some form or another. The 2% that don't have a very tough time.

On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:44 AM, SPENCER BOHABOY wrote:

> Ok, If everyone was doping, is it appropriate that Lance is stripped?
>
> A few years ago I went and heard Greg Lemond give a talk. He commented that after coming back from a injury (invovling a shotgun), he was astounded at how much the peleton had changed. It was so much faster that just a few years before, that with out doping a rider could not even be there.
>
> I wonder, if they should pass an amensty and just move on. Most sports change various rules at various times that affects the statistical history. I just happened to be that Lance won during the steriod years.
>
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 09:22 AM, joec@aracnet.com wrote:
>
>> To (mis-)qoute Charles Barkley:
>> No athlete should be looked up to as a role-model. That is the job for
>> parents.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:29:02 -0700, Craig Hamilton
>> wrote:
>> > Even though he is likely guilty it's a sad day for all of us that were
>> > brought such enjoyment during Armstrong's run. I hope we can look
>> > to Van Garderan, Boswell, and Phinney among others to restore
>> > American cycling at the big show.
>> >
>> > Just add Lance to my growing list of great athlete's that are not role
>> > models - see Tiger, MJ, now Armstrong, who is next?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:53 PM, johnfforbes@comcast.net [1] wrote:
>> >
>> > So he isn't contesting USDA's charges anymore. Stripped of all tour
>> > wins, medal from the Olympic's and all prize money.
>> > _Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless_
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OBRA mailing list
>> > obra@list.obra.org [3]
>> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra [4]
>> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org [5]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Links:
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>> > [1] mailto:johnfforbes@comcast.net
>> > [2] mailto:johnfforbes@comcast.net
>> > [3] mailto:obra@list.obra.org
>> > [4] http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> > [5] mailto:obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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SPENCER BOHABOY

2012-08-24


joec@aracnet.com

2012-08-24

To (mis-)qoute Charles Barkley:
No athlete should be looked up to as a role-model. That is the job for
parents.

Regards,

Joe

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:29:02 -0700, Craig Hamilton
wrote:
> Even though he is likely guilty it's a sad day for all of us that were
> brought such enjoymentduring Armstrong's run. I hope we can look
> to Van Garderan, Boswell, and Phinney among othersto restore
> American cycling at the big show.
>
> Just add Lance to my growing list of great athlete's that are not role
> models - see Tiger, MJ, now Armstrong, who is next?
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:53 PM, johnfforbes@comcast.net [1] wrote:
>
> So he isn't contesting USDA's charges anymore. Stripped of all tour
> wins, medal from the Olympic's and all prize money.
> _Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless_
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org [3]
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra [4]
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org [5]
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] mailto:johnfforbes@comcast.net
> [2] mailto:johnfforbes@comcast.net
> [3] mailto:obra@list.obra.org
> [4] http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> [5] mailto:obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org


Craig Hamilton

2012-08-24

Even though he is likely guilty it's a sad day for all of us that were
brought such enjoyment during Armstrong's run. I hope we can look to Van
Garderan, Boswell, and Phinney among others to restore American cycling at
the big show.

Just add Lance to my growing list of great athlete's that are not role
models - see Tiger, MJ, now Armstrong, who is next?

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:53 PM, johnfforbes@comcast.net <
johnfforbes@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> So he isn't contesting USDA's charges anymore. Stripped of all tour wins,
> medal from the Olympic's and all prize money.
> *Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless*
>
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>


johnfforbes@comcast.net

2012-08-24

So he isn't contesting USDA's charges anymore. Stripped of all tour wins,
medal from the Olympic's and all prize money.
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless