Banned substances and Red Bull smells weird

Erik Voldengen

2012-08-29

I think you would die if you drank a gallon of Red Bull, or at least get
really sick. Otherwise, sounds like a plan.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Josh Spivey wrote:

> Crazy right?
>
> This cross season I'm definitely going to take mad bong hits, six or seven
> puffs of my daughters albuterol, take some imported Pseudoephedrine, squirt
> some cortisone in my ears and other places, snort a bunch of snus and drink
> a gallon of red bull before heading out into the masters c category. Watch
> out for my mighty wrath. If you get a waft of skunk, that weird red bull
> smell and that faint cortisone scent, that will be me passing you at my new
> temporary ftp of 550 watts. I'll probably be lapping second place before he
> get to the end of the first lap. I might even ride a couple of laps
> backwards just for fun.
>
> It's not all technically illegal, but it's definitely doping on some level.
>


Josh Spivey

2012-08-29

Crazy right?

This cross season I'm definitely going to take mad bong hits, six or seven
puffs of my daughters albuterol, take some imported Pseudoephedrine, squirt
some cortisone in my ears and other places, snort a bunch of snus and drink
a gallon of red bull before heading out into the masters c category. Watch
out for my mighty wrath. If you get a waft of skunk, that weird red bull
smell and that faint cortisone scent, that will be me passing you at my new
temporary ftp of 550 watts. I'll probably be lapping second place before he
get to the end of the first lap. I might even ride a couple of laps
backwards just for fun.

It's not all technically illegal, but it's definitely doping on some level.

On 8/29/12 11:58 AM, "Eric" wrote:

> Insulin is prohibited?
>
> I thought that caffeine in quantity was banned, but did not see it on the
> list, unless it is cathine. Anybody remember when Steve Hegg was kicked off
> the 1988 Olympic team for too much caffeine?
>
> Does anybody know why marijuana is on the list?
>
> == Eric
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Spivey
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:23 AM
> To: mike.murray@obra.org; obra-bounces@list.obra.org; remailer, OBRA
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance
>
> According to USADA's site (for 2012), most of these things are on the list.
> I may be misinterpreting them or this is no longer accurate? Sorry if that's
> the case, I was trying to make a point that it's very easy for us to point
> fingers, but it's very difficult to monitor everything that is banned.
>
> 4. Nicotine and caffeine are not prohibited. They are simply part of WADAs
> monitoring program.
>
> 5. Hemorrhoidal creams are not prohibited, but systemic rectal use (like a
> suppository) of glucorticosteroids is prohibited.
>
> 3. Pseudoephedrine is an ingredient in several over-the-counter cold and flu
> medications. WADA has issued an advisory to athletes that they should
> discontinue taking medications containing pseudoephedrine AT LEAST 24 hours
> prior to the time defined as in-competition.
>
> 1. Athletes should be aware that cannabinoids may be retained in fat tissue
> following chronic use and may be detected weeks after use. There have been
> situations where sudden weight loss has caused cannabinoid metabolites
> stored in fat to be released in detectable levels. USADA strongly advises
> athletes not to use cannabinoids at any time.
>
> 1. The dosage of albuterol or formoterol that may be used in sport without a
> TUE may translate into a wide range of puffs. You should examine your
> inhaler closely to determine the dosage. If you need to take more than the
> non-prohibited dosage you must apply for a TUE.
>
> http://www.usada.org/prohibited-list/athlete-guide/
>
>
>
>
> On 8/29/12 10:32 AM, "mike.murray@obra.org" wrote:
>
>> Antihistamines - not on the banned list and never have been.
> Sympathomimetics
>> have been on the list in the past but not antihistamines.
>>
>> Albuterol - previously required a TUE, no longer required.
>>
>> Nicotine - never on the list
>>
>> Caffeine - previously only dose limited. Interestingly higher illegal
> doses
>> decrease rather than improve performance.
>>
>> Topical steroids (hemorrhoid preparations) - not banned
>>
>> Narcotics and marijuana - only banned in competition as they should be for
>> safety reasons
>>
>> Details count. Although cheating might be strictly defined as breaking the
>> rules we need to recognize that doping is not strictly about cheating.
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Spivey
>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:03:54
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Lance
>>
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