Re: RE:Criteria to race in Masters

Peter Murphy

2003-04-03

Where I come from, Florida, they have 50+.



30-35. what the hell is that crap? 30-40. Make it 10 year increments at

least.



Masters A,B, what a bunch of garbage. race 4s. race 3s. use masters as a

warm up, whatever. I feel that if you race masters you should not get a cash

prize. Medals only. Money is only for 1,2,3, and maybe 4s. Before you all

get your panties in a wad. I am 34, and a Cat 4. If I am racing a masters

race or a 4 race I wouldn't expect a cash prize.



You whiners and complainers. Grow up. it's just a HOBBY. oh I only got 14th

when i know i got 12th. Give me a f***ing break. Oh I'm sorry Mr. Ekimov, i

didn't see you outsprint those two guys.



If I catch one of you (or many of you)giving a VOLUNTEER a hard time; i will

(1) ask you when was the last time you volunteered, and (2) tell you to

chill the f*** out. the volunteers are the LIFE BLOOD of our sport. You

should treat them as you would someone you respect. I believe that such

conduct is reprehensible and should be punished. Maybe a two race

suspension, or a revocation of a number will definitely catch some

attention.



Eric, I will also volunteer to be a Bodyguard at the races i attend. I think

it is up to all of us with the level heads after the races to tell the

boneheads to go stretch or hydrate or whatever they need to do calm down.



Pete

















 From: Pat Sagers <pat_s-@orcom.com>

Reply-To: pat_s-@orcom.com

To: "'ob-@topica.com'" <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] RE:Criteria to race in Masters

Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 13:02:20 -0800



  Masters 30-45 A,B & beginners and Masters 45+ A,B and

beginners would be

okay if it could be supported with appropriate field sizes.



On a related note, I'm not sure why 30-35 year old riders should be

considered Masters in any case, and given the improvements in

training and

maintenance methods over the past 20 years, that might reasonably be

extended to 39. I mean, Lance Armstrong is 30, and millions of other

professional athletes at the peak of their careers are

between 30 and 40 --

doesn't that in itself go to Mike's point about the potential

seriousness

of 'old guy' racing?



I agree with your ideas. Being 49 myself, it seems that 35 is fairly young

to be considered a Master. Maybe a way to keep the fields larger you could

do the normal Cat. 1,2,3 and 3,4,5 plus 2 Masters that start at 40. So you

could do a Masters 40+ 1,2,3 and Masters 40+ 3,4,5.

Just a thought.





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