david baker

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From: david baker
Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [teamsunnysidesports] please read and do survey about USAC and
Echo
To: "teamsunnysidesports@yahoogroups.com" <
teamsunnysidesports@yahoogroups.com>

Everyone,
I am glad to see this survey, I had comented on their facebook site
already but I think we should all do both. I think this is a very important
issue. I indicated my preference for Obra but also dual sanctioning. I
think that might help set a precedent that could be beneficial in other
areas of obra cycling.
But most imortantly I hope we all do the survey and comment on their
facebook site, It sure would be a loss for Oregon racing if they went to
USAC only.
David

On Monday, January 14, 2013, Renee Scott wrote:

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> *From: *Gina Miller
> *Subject: **Fwd: Wade Miller is forwarding an email to you*
> *Date: *January 13, 2013 10:19:27 PM PST
> *To: *Scott Renee , Kenlan Karen <
> ckkenlan@bendbroadband.com>
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> Did you guys see this? Effing Echo Red 2 Red is considering becoming a
> USA cycling event....they put out the survey below.
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> I just sent an email to Kenji and Mike Ripley - they really didn't
> present a fair case - here were my thoughts below ...take the survey if you
> have time! Forward to link to everyone you know...
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> Kenji,
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> Wade received the email below from Echo about OBRA vs. USAC. I'm pretty
> amazed that they'd consider doing this, but I'm even more amazed that he'd
> present the "case" of OBRA vs. USAC so unfairly. He states that if you're
> a Cat 2 or 3 rider, you don't have to buy a $60 annual USAC license, but he
> neglects to say that you do have to pay a $10 one-day fee, which is of
> course 50% of an annual OBRA license! He also neglects to be clear that if
> you do NOT buy a USAC annual license, "such riders do not become members
> and may not enter championship events." I know USA Triathlon has a
> provision that allows you to buy a one-day license then if you do qualify
> for a national event, you can buy an annual license post-event and still go
> to the national race. I don't know if USAC has a similar rule...couldn't
> find anything about that on the USAC site. And then there's this note on
> the USA cycling license page:
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> "For MTB races sanctioned by USA Cycling, category 3 and 2 riders are not
> required to have an annual license to compete in non-Championship events.
> However they will be required to sign a waiver and may be charged a larger
> entry fee by the organizer than for an annual member."
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> Plus, a rider's results will not include a club/team name unless your club
> pays $150 to be registered with USAC!
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> The other thing about this message is this race promoter suggests that if
> they go USA cycling, riders will have medical coverage for the event (also
> pointing out that OBRA doesn't cover rider injury). He then says
> "especially good if you do not have insurance." Are you kidding me? This
> is irresponsible race promotion...side note that I don't think anyone that
> can't afford medical insurance should be racing bikes anyway...but come on!
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> This really just fuels the fire with USA Cycling. I'm assuming that USAC
> went to the Echo folks (big assumption) to become a regional state
> championship race and chose it because it really is the first mountain bike
> race of the season. No one in Oregon is in prime race shape in early
> March...it doesn't even make sense to have a regional state championship in
> March!
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> Wade and I both took his "survey" and neither one of us will even think
> about doing Echo if they decide to go USA Cycling, but is there any way
> that you or Mike could get the RD to present the options more fairly?
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> *From: *Wade Miller
> *Subject: **Wade Miller is forwarding an email to you*
> *Date: *January 13, 2013 9:35:07 PM PST
> *To: *Gina Miller
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> Hi Gina Miller,
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> Wade Miller thought you'd be interested in this:
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> http://us2.forward-to-friend.com/forward/show?u=a45896a3bc148694862dbf434&id=3037d3f7fe
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> Wade Miller also included this personal message to you:
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> Here....
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> Did you find the link interesting?
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> You can forward it on to your friends, too:
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> http://us2.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=a45896a3bc148694862dbf434&id=3037d3f7fe
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> You can subscribe for more emails at:
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> http://echored2red.us2.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=a45896a3bc148694862dbf434&id=6ef4e0b208
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