Rick Johnson

On 1/18/2013 5:26 PM, rondot@spiritone.com wrote:
> Modulation is not that important in cyclocross.

I respectfully disagree. For marginal traction conditions with a limited
contact patch modulation matters most.

In fact, for MTB I delayed going to disc brakes for several years until
I could afford good hydraulics - the modulation was so poor on the
mechanicals my preferences (for aggressive and well modulated braking)
could not be satisfied.
I see no reason CX is any different, actually I would argue good
modulation is even more important than on a MTB.

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

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Drew Coleman

That's actually a great point, and another reason I stayed with canti. I don't mtb. If I did, I probably go disc.

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From: grantcollins@ymail.com
Sent: 19 Jan 2013 01:39:09 GMT
To: Drew Coleman
Cc: Josh Spivey,
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Going to disc brakes for cross??

With Ridley's 135 rear spacing any 29er disc wheelset will work too!! FYI. Not bike/CX specific only.

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Drew Coleman wrote:

> Just went through this. Went with an x-fire canti set up...for now. In a couple if seasons when more system wheels are available and cheaper and when hydros are available on shifters that don't cost a mint, ill go disc. Didn't want to buy another competition wheelset. FAR cheaper for me to stay with Canti.
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> Sent: 18 Jan 2013 23:48:46 GMT
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Going to disc brakes for cross??
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> Has anybody decided they are moving over to disc brakes for cross? I’m in a tough situation because I’m ready for a new cross bike next season, but I’m having a hell of a hard time pulling the trigger. I’m already invested in some wheels that are rim brake tubs (nothing crazy, but money is money). I’m reluctant to buy a canti only bike because it seems like the market is now moving rapidly to disc. Is anybody else going through the same quandry? I’m really wanting to purchase a locally built bike, but I’m having a hard time wanting to drop that much cash for a new ride and a couple sets of wheels. Am I over-thinking the whole thing?
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grantcollins@ymail.com

With Ridley's 135 rear spacing any 29er disc wheelset will work too!! FYI. Not bike/CX specific only.

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Drew Coleman wrote:

> Just went through this. Went with an x-fire canti set up...for now. In a couple if seasons when more system wheels are available and cheaper and when hydros are available on shifters that don't cost a mint, ill go disc. Didn't want to buy another competition wheelset. FAR cheaper for me to stay with Canti.
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> From: Josh Spivey
> Sent: 18 Jan 2013 23:48:46 GMT
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Going to disc brakes for cross??
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> Has anybody decided they are moving over to disc brakes for cross? I’m in a tough situation because I’m ready for a new cross bike next season, but I’m having a hell of a hard time pulling the trigger. I’m already invested in some wheels that are rim brake tubs (nothing crazy, but money is money). I’m reluctant to buy a canti only bike because it seems like the market is now moving rapidly to disc. Is anybody else going through the same quandry? I’m really wanting to purchase a locally built bike, but I’m having a hard time wanting to drop that much cash for a new ride and a couple sets of wheels. Am I over-thinking the whole thing?
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rondot@spiritone.com

Unless you do something really stupid to your disc bike (or someone else does) it will last longer than your life and probably need 1/2 the maint. of one with rim brakes. Disc brakes on bikes are probably the most efficient bike innovation since the freewheel.
I raced disc my first year of cross and then again last year and NEVER thought about what the brakes might or might not provide. They were consistent at all times. Mechanical are the easiest to work with. They can be repaired and adjusted easier than your rim brakes. Even though the industry is going to push hydraulic big time, all you want to do is slow yourself down and or stop. Modulation is not that important in cyclocross. Bombing down a mountain in a XC or DH race, modulation is sweet.
The weight of disc is not really an issue. You can build a very light disc. race bike if you choose to put $ into it.
I love my steel Kesho.
just my opinion.

ron s.

From: Drew Coleman
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:23 PM
To: Josh Spivey ; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Going to disc brakes for cross??

Just went through this. Went with an x-fire canti set up...for now. In a couple if seasons when more system wheels are available and cheaper and when hydros are available on shifters that don't cost a mint, ill go disc. Didn't want to buy another competition wheelset. FAR cheaper for me to stay with Canti.

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From: Josh Spivey
Sent: 18 Jan 2013 23:48:46 GMT
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Going to disc brakes for cross??

Has anybody decided they are moving over to disc brakes for cross? I’m in a tough situation because I’m ready for a new cross bike next season, but I’m having a hell of a hard time pulling the trigger. I’m already invested in some wheels that are rim brake tubs (nothing crazy, but money is money). I’m reluctant to buy a canti only bike because it seems like the market is now moving rapidly to disc. Is anybody else going through the same quandry? I’m really wanting to purchase a locally built bike, but I’m having a hard time wanting to drop that much cash for a new ride and a couple sets of wheels. Am I over-thinking the whole thing?

Josh

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Drew Coleman

Just went through this. Went with an x-fire canti set up...for now. In a couple if seasons when more system wheels are available and cheaper and when hydros are available on shifters that don't cost a mint, ill go disc. Didn't want to buy another competition wheelset. FAR cheaper for me to stay with Canti.

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From: Josh Spivey
Sent: 18 Jan 2013 23:48:46 GMT
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Going to disc brakes for cross??

Has anybody decided they are moving over to disc brakes for cross? I¹m in a
tough situation because I¹m ready for a new cross bike next season, but I¹m
having a hell of a hard time pulling the trigger. I¹m already invested in
some wheels that are rim brake tubs (nothing crazy, but money is money). I¹m
reluctant to buy a canti only bike because it seems like the market is now
moving rapidly to disc. Is anybody else going through the same quandry? I¹m
really wanting to purchase a locally built bike, but I¹m having a hard time
wanting to drop that much cash for a new ride and a couple sets of wheels.
Am I over-thinking the whole thing?

Josh

grantcollins@ymail.com

I am making the plunge tomorrow. I've decided to go with the Ridley X-Fire disc from Cyclepath. Makes sense, great winter commuter. I'm a Clyde, I need all the brakes I can get. That being said a great pair of TRP V-brakes are a good option for the canti bikes. Disc brakes and your investment in wheelsets will last a lifetime now. Think about it. There's a reason carbon tubies are for sale every year after a year or two of use!

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Josh Spivey wrote:

> Has anybody decided they are moving over to disc brakes for cross? I’m in a tough situation because I’m ready for a new cross bike next season, but I’m having a hell of a hard time pulling the trigger. I’m already invested in some wheels that are rim brake tubs (nothing crazy, but money is money). I’m reluctant to buy a canti only bike because it seems like the market is now moving rapidly to disc. Is anybody else going through the same quandry? I’m really wanting to purchase a locally built bike, but I’m having a hard time wanting to drop that much cash for a new ride and a couple sets of wheels. Am I over-thinking the whole thing?
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Josh Spivey

Has anybody decided they are moving over to disc brakes for cross? I¹m in a
tough situation because I¹m ready for a new cross bike next season, but I¹m
having a hell of a hard time pulling the trigger. I¹m already invested in
some wheels that are rim brake tubs (nothing crazy, but money is money). I¹m
reluctant to buy a canti only bike because it seems like the market is now
moving rapidly to disc. Is anybody else going through the same quandry? I¹m
really wanting to purchase a locally built bike, but I¹m having a hard time
wanting to drop that much cash for a new ride and a couple sets of wheels.
Am I over-thinking the whole thing?

Josh