Jerald Powell

Brandon, I think the officer was in error. Generally in Oregon does allow bicycles to be ridden on a sidewalk and in a crosswalk at a walking speed, requiring that the cyclist also give an audible warning to a pedestrian being overtaken (ORS 814.410).

I'm not an attorney, but I think the second question may be a bit more complicated. I think you may actually have been a pedestrian in that case, and in fact, a pedestrian ignoring a traffic control device (ORS 814.020). On the other hand, if you were in the traffic lane, acting like a vehicle, you might have been fine.

That's just my two cents as a retired city planner who lobbied for the Oregon bicycle (traffic) law a very long time ago.

Jerry

Jerald M Powell
1926 SW Madison Street
Portland Oregon 97205

503 222 7173
503 799 7823 (cell)

jpowell@spiritone.com

On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Brandon Bruins wrote:

> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal to ride at pedestrian pace.
> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off and walk.
>
> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk" sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red, and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand, but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against the don't walk sign?
>
> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>
> Any facts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Bruins
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Steve Long

This is the one Sgt Graves.

Steve long
503-652-1202

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Cory Solovewicz wrote:

>It is a bit confusing, and the law has changed within the last few years.
>Check out these Bike Portland Blog links:
>
>http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/04/clearing-up-confusion-around-oregons-crosswalk-law-81541
>
>http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/14/politifact-checks-our-work-on-bike-crossing-laws-81890
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Brandon Bruins wrote:
>
>> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
>> to ride at pedestrian pace.
>> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
>> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
>> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
>> and walk.
>>
>> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
>> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
>> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
>> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
>> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
>> the don't walk sign?
>>
>> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
>> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
>> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>>
>> Any facts are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Bruins
>>
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Jamie Mikami

What is the mph for a cyclist who uses a crosswalk? I have kinda assumed 5
mph, but was curious if anyone had any experiance with that via official
channels. Also I figure if I come to a complete stop before and leave it in
a higher gear as I "walk" my bike while looking around it will appear more
"walk like" with the really slow cadence.

I ride around town with my kids via tandem and have been paying much more
attention to things like this.

John Forbes

Bob Jordan, the chief there, is not only an avid cyclist he is also
an Ironman competitor.
If he were contacted about this issue no doubt the word would reach the
patrol officers quickly.

On January 22, 2013 9:30:27 AM Steve Long wrote:
> Fyi,
> I just spoke to a Sgt at the milwaukie police department and forwarded
> this email with the helpful links below. The Sgt told me he would read
> the email and give me a call back. He also said that the chief and
> several of the officers are avid cyclists and if something like that
> incorrectly happened that they would certainly want to be aware of
> that, noting of course, that there were not special circumstances
> involved at the time-aka wanting the officer involved side of the story.
> I hung up believing that they definitely care about the community and
> how its policed.
>
> Steve
>
> Sent from my Samsung Infuse Smartphone
>
> Cory Solovewicz wrote:
>
> >It is a bit confusing, and the law has changed within the last few years.
> >Check out these Bike Portland Blog links:
> >
> >http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/04/clearing-up-confusion-around-oregons-crosswalk-law-81541
> >
> >http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/14/politifact-checks-our-work-on-bike-crossing-laws-81890
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Brandon Bruins
> wrote:
> >
> >> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
> >> to ride at pedestrian pace.
> >> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
> >> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
> >> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
> >> and walk.
> >>
> >> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
> >> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
> >> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
> >> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
> >> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
> >> the don't walk sign?
> >>
> >> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
> >> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
> >> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
> >>
> >> Any facts are appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Brandon Bruins
> >>
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Mark Reinecke

I believe the statute stating that every intersection in Oregon is a "crosswalk" whether marked or not has been on the books since 1983. (ORS 801.220). The recent legislation (2011) involved how much a pedestrian (or cyclist) needs to do at at intersection to activate their right to cross. Now you can put a foot (or wheel) in the road rather than having to be actively crossing.

On Jan 22, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Tom Orth wrote:

> A recent law makes every intersection in Oregon a 'crosswalk'
>
> http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/TS/docs/pedestrian/ped_brochure.pdf
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mark J. Ginsberg wrote:
>> Ben is right, you can ride in a crosswalk, the issue is your speed.
>>
>> There is no law requiring you to walk your bicycle.
>>
>> Depending on how it went, you may consider a polite letter to the Chief of Police in Milwaukie, outlining your interaction and without naming the officer, pointing out how there is no such law and ask for a response.
>>
>> Also note that there are places, like downtown portland and others where it IS illegal to ride on sidewalks, and by extension cross walks.
>>
>> Also, please remember that all intersections are cross walks even without paint.
>>
>> M
>>
>> Mark J. Ginsberg
>> Berkshire Ginsberg, LLC
>> Attorneys At Law
>> 1216 SE Belmont St.
>> Portland, OR 97214
>> (503) 542-3000
>> Fax (503) 233-6874
>> markjginsberg@yahoo.com
>> mark@berkshireginsberglaw.com
>> www.berkshireginsberglaw.com
>>
>> From: Benjamin Drucker
>> To:
>> Cc: Obra
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk
>>
>> You can bike on a crosswalk as long as you go no faster than an "ordinary" pedestrian.
>>
>> Oregon Vehicle Code (http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/vcb/vcb814.pdf)
>>
>> 814.410 Unsafe operation of bicycle on sidewalk; penalty. (1) A person commits the
>> offense of unsafe operation of a bicycle on a
>> sidewalk if the person does any of the following:
>> ...
>> (d) Operates the bicycle at a speed greater than an ordinary walk when approaching or entering a crosswalk, approaching or crossing a driveway or crossing
>> a curb cut or pedestrian ramp and a motor vehicle is approaching the crosswalk, driveway, curb cut or pedestrian ramp.
>> ...
>> (2) Except as otherwise specifically provided by law, a bicyclist on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk has the same rights and duties as a pedestrian on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Erik Long wrote:
>> Sounds like you were making Springwater's diagonal crossing at Johnson Creek and Bell Ave?
>>
>> If so, there is no "crosswalk" for Springwater, but there IS a bike signal.
>>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:53 -0800
>> From: brandonbruins@gmail.com
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk
>>
>>
>> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal to ride at pedestrian pace.
>> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off and walk.
>>
>> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk" sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red, and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand, but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against the don't walk sign?
>>
>> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>>
>> Any facts are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Bruins
>>
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Steve Long

Fyi,
I just spoke to a Sgt at the milwaukie police department and forwarded this email with the helpful links below. The Sgt told me he would read the email and give me a call back. He also said that the chief and several of the officers are avid cyclists and if something like that incorrectly happened that they would certainly want to be aware of that, noting of course, that there were not special circumstances involved at the time-aka wanting the officer involved side of the story.
I hung up believing that they definitely care about the community and how its policed.

Steve

Sent from my Samsung Infuse Smartphone

Cory Solovewicz wrote:

>It is a bit confusing, and the law has changed within the last few years.
>Check out these Bike Portland Blog links:
>
>http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/04/clearing-up-confusion-around-oregons-crosswalk-law-81541
>
>http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/14/politifact-checks-our-work-on-bike-crossing-laws-81890
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Brandon Bruins wrote:
>
>> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
>> to ride at pedestrian pace.
>> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
>> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
>> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
>> and walk.
>>
>> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
>> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
>> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
>> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
>> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
>> the don't walk sign?
>>
>> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
>> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
>> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>>
>> Any facts are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Bruins
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Steve Long

Hmmm, maybe someone needs to make the Milwaukie police department aware of the laws.

Steve

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Cory Solovewicz wrote:

>It is a bit confusing, and the law has changed within the last few years.
>Check out these Bike Portland Blog links:
>
>http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/04/clearing-up-confusion-around-oregons-crosswalk-law-81541
>
>http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/14/politifact-checks-our-work-on-bike-crossing-laws-81890
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Brandon Bruins wrote:
>
>> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
>> to ride at pedestrian pace.
>> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
>> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
>> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
>> and walk.
>>
>> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
>> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
>> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
>> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
>> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
>> the don't walk sign?
>>
>> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
>> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
>> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>>
>> Any facts are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Bruins
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
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Tom Orth

A recent law makes every intersection in Oregon a 'crosswalk'

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/TS/docs/pedestrian/ped_brochure.pdf

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mark J. Ginsberg
wrote:

> Ben is right, you can ride in a crosswalk, the issue is your speed.
>
> There is no law requiring you to walk your bicycle.
>
> Depending on how it went, you may consider a polite letter to the Chief of
> Police in Milwaukie, outlining your interaction and without naming the
> officer, pointing out how there is no such law and ask for a response.
>
> Also note that there are places, like downtown portland and others where
> it IS illegal to ride on sidewalks, and by extension cross walks.
>
> Also, please remember that all intersections are cross walks even without
> paint.
>
> M
>
> Mark J. Ginsberg
> Berkshire Ginsberg, LLC
> Attorneys At Law
> 1216 SE Belmont St.
> Portland, OR 97214
> (503) 542-3000
> Fax (503) 233-6874
> markjginsberg@yahoo.com
> mark@berkshireginsberglaw.com
> www.berkshireginsberglaw.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Benjamin Drucker
> *To:*
> *Cc:* Obra
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:35 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk
>
> You can bike on a crosswalk as long as you go no faster than an "ordinary"
> pedestrian.
>
> *Oregon Vehicle Code (http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/vcb/vcb814.pdf)*
> *
> *
> *814.410 Unsafe operation of bicycle on sidewalk; penalty. (1) A person
> commits the*
> *offense of unsafe operation of a bicycle on a*
> *sidewalk if the person does any of the following:*
> *...*
> *(d) Operates the bicycle at a speed greater than an ordinary walk when
> approaching or entering a crosswalk, approaching or crossing a driveway or
> crossing*
> *a curb cut or pedestrian ramp and a motor vehicle is approaching the
> crosswalk, driveway, curb cut or pedestrian ramp.*
> *...*
> *(2) Except as otherwise specifically provided by law, a bicyclist on a
> sidewalk or in a crosswalk has the same rights and duties as a pedestrian
> on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk.*
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Erik Long wrote:
>
> Sounds like you were making Springwater's diagonal crossing at Johnson
> Creek and Bell Ave?
>
> If so, there is no "crosswalk" for Springwater, but there IS a bike
> signal.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:53 -0800
> From: brandonbruins@gmail.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk
>
>
> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
> to ride at pedestrian pace.
> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
> and walk.
>
> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
> the don't walk sign?
>
> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>
> Any facts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Bruins
>
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Mark J. Ginsberg

Ben is right, you can ride in a crosswalk, the issue is your speed.

There is no law requiring you to walk your bicycle.

Depending on how it went, you may consider a polite letter to the Chief of Police in Milwaukie, outlining your interaction and without naming the officer, pointing out how there is no such law and ask for a response.

Also note that there are places, like downtown portland and others where it IS illegal to ride on sidewalks, and by extension cross walks.

Also, please remember that all intersections are cross walks even without paint.

M

 
Mark J. Ginsberg
Berkshire Ginsberg, LLC
Attorneys At Law
1216 SE Belmont St.
Portland, OR 97214
(503) 542-3000
Fax (503) 233-6874
markjginsberg@yahoo.com
mark@berkshireginsberglaw.com
www.berkshireginsberglaw.com

________________________________
From: Benjamin Drucker
To:
Cc: Obra
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk

You can bike on a crosswalk as long as you go no faster than an "ordinary" pedestrian.
Oregon Vehicle Code (http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/vcb/vcb814.pdf)

814.410 Unsafe operation of bicycle on sidewalk; penalty. (1) A person commits the
offense of unsafe operation of a bicycle on a
sidewalk if the person does any of the following:
...
(d) Operates the bicycle at a speed greater than an ordinary walk when approaching or entering a crosswalk, approaching or crossing a  driveway or crossing
a curb cut or pedestrian ramp and a motor vehicle is approaching the crosswalk, driveway, curb cut or  pedestrian ramp.
...
(2)  Except as otherwise specifically provided by law, a bicyclist on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk has  the same rights and duties as a pedestrian on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Erik Long wrote:

Sounds like you were making Springwater's  diagonal crossing at Johnson Creek and Bell Ave?
>
>If so, there is no "crosswalk" for Springwater, but there IS a bike signal. 
>
>
>
>________________________________
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:53 -0800
>From: brandonbruins@gmail.com
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk
>
>
>Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal to ride at pedestrian pace. 
>Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off and walk. 
>
>
>I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk" sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red, and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand, but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against the don't walk sign?
>
>
>I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law. 
>
>
>Any facts are appreciated. 
>
>
>Thanks, 
>
>
>Brandon Bruins
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It is a bit confusing, and the law has changed within the last few years.
Check out these Bike Portland Blog links:

http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/04/clearing-up-confusion-around-oregons-crosswalk-law-81541

http://bikeportland.org/2013/01/14/politifact-checks-our-work-on-bike-crossing-laws-81890

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Brandon Bruins wrote:

> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
> to ride at pedestrian pace.
> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
> and walk.
>
> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
> the don't walk sign?
>
> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>
> Any facts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Bruins
>
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Benjamin Drucker

You can bike on a crosswalk as long as you go no faster than an "ordinary"
pedestrian.

*Oregon Vehicle Code (http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/vcb/vcb814.pdf)*
*
*
*814.410 Unsafe operation of bicycle on sidewalk; penalty. (1) A person
commits the*
*offense of unsafe operation of a bicycle on a*
*sidewalk if the person does any of the following:*
*...*
*(d) Operates the bicycle at a speed greater than an ordinary walk when
approaching or entering a crosswalk, approaching or crossing a driveway or
crossing*
*a curb cut or pedestrian ramp and a motor vehicle is approaching the
crosswalk, driveway, curb cut or pedestrian ramp.*
*...*
*(2) Except as otherwise specifically provided by law, a bicyclist on a
sidewalk or in a crosswalk has the same rights and duties as a pedestrian
on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk.*

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Erik Long wrote:

> Sounds like you were making Springwater's diagonal crossing at Johnson
> Creek and Bell Ave?
>
> If so, there is no "crosswalk" for Springwater, but there IS a bike
> signal.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:53 -0800
> From: brandonbruins@gmail.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk
>
>
> Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal
> to ride at pedestrian pace.
> Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
> because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
> Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
> and walk.
>
> I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
> sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
> and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
> through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
> but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
> the don't walk sign?
>
> I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on
> the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted
> on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.
>
> Any facts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Bruins
>
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Erik Long

Sounds like you were making Springwater's diagonal crossing at Johnson Creek and Bell Ave?

If so, there is no "crosswalk" for Springwater, but there IS a bike signal.

Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:53 -0800
From: brandonbruins@gmail.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Stopped for Riding in a Crosswalk

Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal to ride at pedestrian pace. Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off and walk.

I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk" sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red, and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand, but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against the don't walk sign?

I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on the laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted on good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.

Any facts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Brandon Bruins

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Brandon Bruins

Is it not legal to ride your bike in a crosswalk? I thought it was legal to
ride at pedestrian pace.
Tonight I was stopped on the Springwater trail by a Milwaukie officer
because I rode my bike through the crosswalk at the Springwater and
Linwood. The officer told me that it was illegal and I needed to get off
and walk.

I was also stopped for crossing the street when I didn't have the "walk"
sign. The light on Johnson Creek was green, the left turn signals were red,
and I stopped to make sure there were no cars about to turn before I rode
through the crosswalk with the don't walk sign. This one I can understand,
but am curious if anyone knows the law here; can you cross a street against
the don't walk sign?

I didn't fight, but admitted my mistakes and asked for clarification on the
laws, and I was let go. The officer and I had a good talk and we parted on
good terms. I am curious whether he is correct about that crosswalk law.

Any facts are appreciated.

Thanks,

Brandon Bruins