Best MTB pedal choice?

Ben Fischler

2013-02-12

I've been riding SPD's since the first version and while they sucked ass in bad mud for years, they have been getting progressively better. The current gen shed mud well enough for me, and they are incredibly bomb proof IMO.

While I have never ridden CB's I have known several friends who stuck with them through many, many of their "6 month rebuilds"... And now most of my friends who rode CG now ride Time pedals and LOVE them. If I were not so heavily invested in SPD's I'd be riding Times.

2cents.

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Mike Richardson wrote:

> Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.
>
> I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.
>
> Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!
>
> The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.
>
> Mike
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>
>>
>> Shane,
>>
>> I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>>
>> During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
>>
>> In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.
>>
>> I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...
>>
>> I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>>
>> I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.
>>
>> ~~shane
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:
>> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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Paul Greenwalt

2013-02-12

I’ve used SPDs for about 20 years and have had good luck. They
need no service, last forever, and just work! …except when it is really muddy
they do clog up on me.

I tried CB a couple years back (pre bearing model) and although
they worked better in really muddy conditions they needed to much service,
duct tape, and zip ties. The bushings and spring wore out in about 6 months. The
shop told me CB recommended regular replacement of the bushings and suggested I
try duct tape and zip ties for the worn springs. Not happy with duct tape and
zip ties to make my 6 month old $120 eggbeater pedals work, the shop sent them
to CB and they wanted $40 to replace the worn springs and bushings. That was
when I decided to go back to SPDs. BTW, CB did eventually replace the springs
for free, but I still have a bushing kit and the CB eggbeaters sitting on my
workbench.
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:43:51 -0800
From: jmsobr@bikeeng.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Best MTB pedal choice?

I gave up SPDs when my right foot failed to unclip (but my left did) and it broke my leg. Yes nothing like almost losing your lower leg to get you to go to brass cleats, rounded edges, no wear ridges, etc, to catch and hold and snap bone.


I also use candys (but have some eggbeaters when I try muddy cx again). The older plastic candys are complete junk. Don't buy them:) The new aluminum winged candys first year or so were good, but my axle was soft and the needle bearings wore in quite fast. I actually ordered from VXB and installed slightly longer needle bearings. I think one can also get a max fill also. But I think they fixed the axles now, and made the bearing land a proper hardness.


I think the Candy 2's are quite good also. The bushing seems quite high quality and the little seal actually works well (I just pulled mine off and regreased, and there was no ingress of anything. even though grit all over the outside, and I do use a garden hose weekly on my bike. Yes regreasing is pretty easy, You do not need to take the pedal off the cranks. The plastic end piece is the only thing one must be careful with, the screwdriver slot is easily mangled.


I use candies for all bikes including Track. I have never accidently come out (knock on wood) of an eggbeater (although a spring broke once) . I attribute this to the design is such that as you pull up, the bars tighten on the cleat, grip it with more force. And I have come out of SPDs and Shimano road, time, etc


the one downside of crank brothers is they interact with your shoe via the tread, which of course wears down. I finally invested in some SIDI spiders shoes with the replaceable sole. So far I have stacked plastic milk jug "shims" to adjust for wear, since even those replacement soles are expensive. But the Sidi shoes are awesome (which they better be for $$ they cost) and I fully expect to still be using them 5 to 10 years from now...


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, adam holt wrote:

Yes. This is my sentiment exactly. Actually, I have no beef with CB, because I've never used anything other than SPD. And the models from the last 10 years or so clear mud much better than the older ones.

Adam

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, grantcollins@ymail.com wrote:

Friends don't let friends ride CB period! Shimano SPD's will last for two decades without fail.

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Mike Richardson wrote:

Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.

I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.

Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!

The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.

Mike

On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:

Shane,

I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)

During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.

In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.

I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...

I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.

I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:

Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks

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I gave up SPDs when my right foot failed to unclip (but my left did) and it
broke my leg. Yes nothing like almost losing your lower leg to get you to
go to brass cleats, rounded edges, no wear ridges, etc, to catch and
hold and snap bone.

I also use candys (but have some eggbeaters when I try muddy cx again).
The older plastic candys are complete junk. Don't buy them:) The new
aluminum winged candys first year or so were good, but my axle was soft and
the needle bearings wore in quite fast. I actually ordered from VXB and
installed slightly longer needle bearings. I think one can also get a max
fill also. But I think they fixed the axles now, and made the bearing land
a proper hardness.

I think the Candy 2's are quite good also. The bushing seems quite high
quality and the little seal actually works well (I just pulled mine off
and regreased, and there was no ingress of anything. even though grit all
over the outside, and I do use a garden hose weekly on my bike. Yes
regreasing is pretty easy, You do not need to take the pedal off the
cranks. The plastic end piece is the only thing one must be careful with,
the screwdriver slot is easily mangled.

I use candies for all bikes including Track. I have never accidently come
out (knock on wood) of an eggbeater (although a spring broke once) . I
attribute this to the design is such that as you pull up, the bars
tighten on the cleat, grip it with more force. And I have come out of
SPDs and Shimano road, time, etc

the one downside of crank brothers is they interact with your shoe via the
tread, which of course wears down. I finally invested in some SIDI spiders
shoes with the replaceable sole. So far I have stacked plastic milk jug
"shims" to adjust for wear, since even those replacement soles are
expensive. But the Sidi shoes are awesome (which they better be for $$
they cost) and I fully expect to still be using them 5 to 10 years from
now...

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, adam holt wrote:

> Yes. This is my sentiment exactly. Actually, I have no beef with CB,
> because I've never used anything other than SPD. And the models from the
> last 10 years or so clear mud much better than the older ones.
>
> Adam
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, grantcollins@ymail.com wrote:
>
> Friends don't let friends ride CB period! Shimano SPD's will last for
> two decades without fail.
>
>
>
> ------__o
> ----_ \ {,
> ---(_)/(_)
> Thanks GC
> 425-780-0374
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Mike Richardson wrote:
>
> Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a
> 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and
> quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB
> and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.
>
> I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route
> first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and
> non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain
> price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are
> both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end
> pedal line and that's what I broke.
>
> Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For
> example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their
> website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!
>
> The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.
>
> Mike
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>
>
> Shane,
>
> I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially
> started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal
> platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud
> clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I
> never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>
> During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down
> the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters
> really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on
> rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
>
> In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and
> increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully
> so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while
> until people start to trust them again.
>
> I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system
> for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly,
> reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought
> (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24
> months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease,
> and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a
> few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I
> was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't
> prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky
> boulders. Sigh ...
>
> I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have
> the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong
> shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with
> my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility
> issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them,
> I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>
> I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters
> ... so far.
>
> ~~shane
>
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker <
> Shaneparker@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my
>> cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have
>> had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings
>> have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with
>> one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews,
>> the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty
>> but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the
>> candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the
>> wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you
>> have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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adam holt

2013-02-12

Yes. This is my sentiment exactly. Actually, I have no beef with CB, because I've never used anything other than SPD. And the models from the last 10 years or so clear mud much better than the older ones.

Adam

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, grantcollins@ymail.com wrote:

> Friends don't let friends ride CB period! Shimano SPD's will last for two decades without fail.
>
>
>
> ------__o
> ----_ \ {,
> ---(_)/(_)
> Thanks GC
> 425-780-0374
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Mike Richardson wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.
>>
>> I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.
>>
>> Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!
>>
>> The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>>>
>>> During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
>>>
>>> In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.
>>>
>>> I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...
>>>
>>> I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>>>
>>> I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.
>>>
>>> ~~shane
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:
>>>> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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grantcollins@ymail.com

2013-02-12

I've learned the hard way, any pedal that has a weight restriction is not worth riding on in my opinion. I've gone through about 6-7 pairs of CB, I've still have the same pair of SPD's. I've had the springs break, the bars break, the bearing freeze, and so in.

That being said...... For Cyclocross in the NW, the egg beaters work best bar none. Just plan on buying a new pair every 6 weeks. But only use for CX!

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---(_)/(_)
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On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Brian Baumann wrote:

> I have spent a good amount of miles on TIMEs, Eggbeaters, and XT's.. I now run XT's and will never go back to any other, despite the superior mud clearing capabilities of the EB.
> 1. EB need frequent maintenance. I was rebuilding them at least twice per year. More time and $$.
> 2. The cleats wear out incredibly fast. More $.
> 3. No float adjustability. My feet moved around too much on the EB's, and I like to stick to my pedal more.
> 4. The "feel." I just don't like the minimalist feel of the EB. The XT's feel better and are more confidence inspiring when things get sketchy.
>
> B
>
> From: Mike Richardson
> To: Shane Gibson
> Cc: OBRA ; Shane Parker
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Best MTB pedal choice?
>
> Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.
>
> I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.
>
> Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!
>
> The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.
>
> Mike
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>
>>
>> Shane,
>>
>> I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>>
>> During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
>>
>> In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.
>>
>> I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...
>>
>> I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>>
>> I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.
>>
>> ~~shane
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:
>> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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Wood, Nicholas C

2013-02-12

Seconded – Shimano ‘Trail’ version is nice for non-weight weenies with a larger platform.

Nick

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Mike Richardson > wrote:
Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.

I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.
Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!

The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.

Mike

On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson > wrote:

Shane,

I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)

During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.

I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...
I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.
~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker > wrote:
Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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Brian Baumann

2013-02-12

I have spent a good amount of miles on TIMEs, Eggbeaters, and XT's..  I now run XT's and will never go back to any other, despite the superior mud clearing capabilities of the EB.  
1.  EB need frequent maintenance.  I was rebuilding them at least twice per year.  More time and $$.
2.  The cleats wear out incredibly fast.  More $.
3.  No float adjustability.  My feet moved around too much on the EB's, and I like to stick to my pedal more.
4.  The "feel."  I just don't like the minimalist feel of the EB.  The XT's feel better and are more confidence inspiring when things get sketchy.

B

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From: Mike Richardson
To: Shane Gibson
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Best MTB pedal choice?

Maybe it's a Shane-only party ...  but I agree with Shane G!  Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned. 

I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke. 

Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!

The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine. 

Mike

On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:

>Shane,
>
>I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now.  Initially started with the Eggbeaters.  Switched to the Candy's.  Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness.  In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions.  Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>
>During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet.  There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality.  I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals.  It was ridiculous.
>
>In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability.  Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems.  It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.
>
>I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX.  Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues.  The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months.  You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together.  It's super easy to service them now.  I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders.  Sigh ...
>
>I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes.  If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues.  I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>
>I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far. 
>
>~~shane
>
>
>
>
>--
>"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."   - Sun Tzu
>
>
>On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:
>
>Which pedal is the best for MTB?  I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision.  I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting.  Thanks
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2013-02-12

Friends don't let friends ride CB period! Shimano SPD's will last for two decades without fail.

------__o
----_ \ {,
---(_)/(_)
Thanks GC
425-780-0374

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Mike Richardson wrote:

> Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.
>
> I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.
>
> Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!
>
> The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.
>
> Mike
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:
>
>>
>> Shane,
>>
>> I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>>
>> During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
>>
>> In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.
>>
>> I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...
>>
>> I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>>
>> I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.
>>
>> ~~shane
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:
>>> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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Mike Richardson

2013-02-12

Maybe it's a Shane-only party ... but I agree with Shane G! Also a 10-year CB addict, I haven't rolled eggbeaters but Candys, Acids, and quattros. I don't cx (running issues) but I also broke a pair on both MTB and road last year. Same quality issues as Shane mentioned.

I can add they do have a good repair offering and I tried that route first. I found out both of my broken ones were a lower quality and non-repairable ... Looking back, I bought both pairs on-line for a bargain price. Maybe a coincidence but the 3 sets I bought from local dealers are both repairable and still working. I think cb makes or made a lower-end pedal line and that's what I broke.

Right now, and for a while now, they also have an upgrade offer. For example, eggbeater 3s and candy 3s for half price, $60. Link on their website, and you just send them a picture of the old pedals. Cb or not!

The 3's IMO are awesome, I was really pleased with mine.

Mike

On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Shane Gibson wrote:

>
> Shane,
>
> I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)
>
> During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.
>
> In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while until people start to trust them again.
>
> I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly, reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought (on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24 months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease, and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky boulders. Sigh ...
>
> I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them, I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.
>
> I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters ... so far.
>
> ~~shane
>
>
> --
> "Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:
> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
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Shane Gibson

2013-02-12

Shane,

I have been using Crank Brothers for well over 9 years now. Initially
started with the Eggbeaters. Switched to the Candy's. Felt that the pedal
platform was completely useless, and not worth the loss of mud
clearance/clip in easiness. In fact, If I'm not clipped in, I'm scared - I
never unclip to ride in any conditions. Dabbing is for pansies ... ;-)

During the time I switched to the Candy's - Crank Bros quality went down
the toilet. There were 4 or so (maybe more?) years where the eggbeaters
really sucked in quality. I had same issues with eggbeaters collapsing on
rock strikes, burned out bearings, falling off pedals. It was ridiculous.

In the last 2 years or so - they have completely revamped their pedals and
increased their quality control and reliability. Obviously (rightfully
so), they're reputation has suffered from their problems. It'll be a while
until people start to trust them again.

I still think that Eggbeaters are by far and away the best pedal system for
MTB and CX. Nothing else out there seems to clear mud as quickly,
reliably, and without issues. The last 3 pairs of eggbeaters I've bought
(on different bikes), have all been without problems for the last 18 to 24
months. You can even pull off the pedal spindle, repack it with grease,
and put it back together. It's super easy to service them now. I've had a
few rock strikes on the new ones, and not popped out, except once; and I
was thankful that I popped out - though having the wrong foot free didn't
prevent a slow speed inevitable side fall on a bunch of sharp rocky
boulders. Sigh ...

I also run Eggbeaters on my road bike - but only because I like to have the
same clipless system on all my bikes. If I accidentally grab the wrong
shoes, or for some reason need my road shoes 'cause I'm having issues with
my MTB/CX shoes - I can be certain I won't have clipless compatibility
issues. I'm certain eggbeaters aren't the best for road, but I like, them,
I'm comfortable with them, they're nice and lightweight.

I do recommend the **newer** model, serviceable versions of the Eggbeaters
... so far.

~~shane

--
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Shane Parker wrote:

> Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my
> cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have
> had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings
> have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with
> one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews,
> the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty
> but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the
> candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the
> wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you
> have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks
> _______________________________________________
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Shane Parker

2013-02-12

Which pedal is the best for MTB? I have been running eggbeaters on my cross and Mountainbike for several years now. Cross has been fine but have had issues with them on my Mountainbike due to pedal strikes. The wings have broke and bent on several occasions and now I am having trouble with one set of wings returning to the correct position. Reading recent reviews, the new addition to crank Brothers selling point is the five year warranty but that does not include pedal collision. I am considering giving the candys a try, specifically candy 3 thinking that it may help protect the wings a little bit better. I am looking for feedback on which pedal you have used and found successful in the Mountainbike setting. Thanks