I loved the Mayors Cup. As a matter of fact, it was my first podium (as a III, not with the big boys, after one too many Spanish Coffee's from Hubers the night before). It was too bad when it went away, just as it's too bad Twilight did.
Yeah, and primes for the chasers, too. Every so often someone does that and it livens up the race.
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Tom Orth
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:56 AM
To: rondot@spiritone.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Steve Scarich
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Race promoting advice
downtown, big time, daytime crits are fun spectator events. I used to live in Wheaton, IL and the Wheaton Crit was huge fun. Monstrous crowds 20 feet deep around the entire course, big crowd prems, local business prems, street vendors, music. Great atmosphere. I always hoped the twilight crit would capture that feeling, but we know what happened to it.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, > wrote:
Steve,
I did not race it, but still have one of the caps!!! You are right. It was fun for fans.
Looking at your description now, it almost describes some Cross races! Yeah. People love action.
It could be done with less $$$ than you had to work with....or as much of course.
Put on a good show down there Luke. Give the people what they want. The racers will show and you know it.
ron
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Scarich
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:34 AM
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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Race promoting advice
Back in the late 80's, I used to promote the Mayor's Cup Criterium in Old Town Portland. I recall that I had about a $13, 000 cash prize list for the Pros (50+ used to attend from all around the country). I put nearly half in premes (one year I even had backstretch premes), and the action was fast and furious. Spectators (over 5000 as I recall) loved it. I don't know about the riders, I didn't care what they thought (: I was just trying to put on a show to satisfy the sponsors. Seemed to work; sponsors upped my total budget to over $35,000 the next year. Front page, above the fold, full color photo on next day's Oregonian didn't hurt, either. My point is, bike racing can be kind of boring to watch (sorry, but that's reality), but when spectators knew that $100+ was on the line every lap, they got interested. Another thing that I did was offer raffle prizes (5 Raleigh bikes) to the crowd.
Steve Scarich
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downtown, big time, daytime crits are fun spectator events. I used to live
in Wheaton, IL and the Wheaton Crit was huge fun. Monstrous crowds 20 feet
deep around the entire course, big crowd prems, local business prems,
street vendors, music. Great atmosphere. I always hoped the twilight crit
would capture that feeling, but we know what happened to it.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, wrote:
> Steve,
> I did not race it, but still have one of the caps!!! You are right. It
> was fun for fans.
> Looking at your description now, it almost describes some Cross races!
> Yeah. People love action.
> It could be done with less $$$ than you had to work with....or as much of
> course.
> Put on a good show down there Luke. Give the people what they want. The
> racers will show and you know it.
> ron
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Scarich
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:34 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Race promoting advice
>
>
> Back in the late 80's, I used to promote the Mayor's Cup Criterium in Old
> Town Portland. I recall that I had about a $13, 000 cash prize list for
> the Pros (50+ used to attend from all around the country). I put nearly
> half in premes (one year I even had backstretch premes), and the action was
> fast and furious. Spectators (over 5000 as I recall) loved it. I don't
> know about the riders, I didn't care what they thought (: I was just
> trying to put on a show to satisfy the sponsors. Seemed to work; sponsors
> upped my total budget to over $35,000 the next year. Front page, above the
> fold, full color photo on next day's Oregonian didn't hurt, either. My
> point is, bike racing can be kind of boring to watch (sorry, but that's
> reality), but when spectators knew that $100+ was on the line every lap,
> they got interested. Another thing that I did was offer raffle prizes (5
> Raleigh bikes) to the crowd.
>
> Steve Scarich
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Steve,
I did not race it, but still have one of the caps!!! You are right. It was
fun for fans.
Looking at your description now, it almost describes some Cross races!
Yeah. People love action.
It could be done with less $$$ than you had to work with....or as much of
course.
Put on a good show down there Luke. Give the people what they want. The
racers will show and you know it.
ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Scarich
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:34 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Race promoting advice
Back in the late 80's, I used to promote the Mayor's Cup Criterium in Old
Town Portland. I recall that I had about a $13, 000 cash prize list for the
Pros (50+ used to attend from all around the country). I put nearly half in
premes (one year I even had backstretch premes), and the action was fast and
furious. Spectators (over 5000 as I recall) loved it. I don't know about
the riders, I didn't care what they thought (: I was just trying to put on
a show to satisfy the sponsors. Seemed to work; sponsors upped my total
budget to over $35,000 the next year. Front page, above the fold, full
color photo on next day's Oregonian didn't hurt, either. My point is, bike
racing can be kind of boring to watch (sorry, but that's reality), but when
spectators knew that $100+ was on the line every lap, they got interested.
Another thing that I did was offer raffle prizes (5 Raleigh bikes) to the
crowd.
Steve Scarich
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Back in the late 80's, I used to promote the Mayor's Cup Criterium in Old Town Portland. I recall that I had about a $13, 000 cash prize list for the Pros (50+ used to attend from all around the country). I put nearly half in premes (one year I even had backstretch premes), and the action was fast and furious. Spectators (over 5000 as I recall) loved it. I don't know about the riders, I didn't care what they thought (: I was just trying to put on a show to satisfy the sponsors. Seemed to work; sponsors upped my total budget to over $35,000 the next year. Front page, above the fold, full color photo on next day's Oregonian didn't hurt, either. My point is, bike racing can be kind of boring to watch (sorry, but that's reality), but when spectators knew that $100+ was on the line every lap, they got interested. Another thing that I did was offer raffle prizes (5 Raleigh bikes) to the crowd.
Steve Scarich
The best attended crit I have put on, had primes every lap
Candi
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Luke DeMoe
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:28 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] race promoting advice
Helping put on a Crit in Eugene that should have some good cash up for
grabs. Would people rather see most of the money go to primes, or to the
overall top 3?
Helping put on a Crit in Eugene that should have some good cash up for
grabs. Would people rather see most of the money go to primes, or to the
overall top 3?
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