Scott Bricker

I'd like to say that I've also been following this discussion, have clearly

heard mixed perspectives. I am the BTA's legislative corespondent and am

willing to outline our perspective / history, etc. on the bill. I am also

willing to provide info. on how to get involved in the legislative process.



Thanks



Scott Bricker

Bicycle Transportation Alliance

PO BOX 9072

Portland, OR 97207

503.226.0676 x 14

www.bta4bikes.org

visit us at 717 SW 12th Ave.



" This is Oregon. When it's sunny we drink beer, when it's rainy we drink

coffee, but we always ride our bikes."-- me





----- Original Message -----

From: "Peter Murphy" <murphy_-@hotmail.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a stop--House Bill

Passes





 

Look it up. You have the House Bill #. go to the Legislature site and do a

search. It should tell you who wrote it. Besides, if you feel that

strongly

 about it just write your Rep and tell him/her.



 From: Roger Joys <roger-@speakeasy.net>

Reply-To: roger-@speakeasy.net

To: obra <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a stop--House

Bill

  Passes

Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:17:08 -0700



OK instead of all of us bantering about on the chat board, does anyone

know

  the address or email address of the legislators sponsoring this bill, so

we

  can send our views to someone who can do somthing productive with them...



Thanks..



-r "When trackstands are outlawed, only outlaws will trackstand"





On 07 May 2003, mar-@hevanet.com wrote:



 Track stands may become a lost art in

Oregon.... This article was found in the

Tuesday, May 6th "Oregonian", Page B4 in the

Political Notebook section:



~~~<<>>~~~ "Cyclists won't need to stop at

signs, flashing red lights"



SALEM -- Bicycle riders no longer have to

come to a complete halt at stop signs or

flashing red lights with a bill the House

approved Monday.



House Bill 2768, which passed 46-9 and was

sent to the Senate, would require cyclists to

ride at a safe speed and yield right of way to

vehicles or pedestrians stopped at or

approaching intersections. The proposal

essentially allows bike riders to read stop

signs or flashing red lights as "yield" signs.



Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience

of getting out of toe clips, and the energy

needed to fully stop and start their bikes.



-- Janie Har

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Peter Murphy

Look it up. You have the House Bill #. go to the Legislature site and do a

search. It should tell you who wrote it. Besides, if you feel that strongly

about it just write your Rep and tell him/her.



 From: Roger Joys <roger-@speakeasy.net>

Reply-To: roger-@speakeasy.net

To: obra <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a stop--House Bill

Passes

Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:17:08 -0700



OK instead of all of us bantering about on the chat board, does anyone know

the address or email address of the legislators sponsoring this bill, so we

can send our views to someone who can do somthing productive with them...



Thanks..



-r "When trackstands are outlawed, only outlaws will trackstand"





On 07 May 2003, mar-@hevanet.com wrote:



 Track stands may become a lost art in

Oregon.... This article was found in the

Tuesday, May 6th "Oregonian", Page B4 in the

Political Notebook section:



~~~<<>>~~~ "Cyclists won't need to stop at

signs, flashing red lights"



SALEM -- Bicycle riders no longer have to

come to a complete halt at stop signs or

flashing red lights with a bill the House

approved Monday.



House Bill 2768, which passed 46-9 and was

sent to the Senate, would require cyclists to

ride at a safe speed and yield right of way to

vehicles or pedestrians stopped at or

approaching intersections. The proposal

essentially allows bike riders to read stop

signs or flashing red lights as "yield" signs.



Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience

of getting out of toe clips, and the energy

needed to fully stop and start their bikes.



-- Janie Har

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Representative Floyd Prozanski is the "sponsoring" party.



Email is 'rep.floyd-@state.or.us'



Web site (general) is here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/



Contents of the House Bill are here:

http://www.leg.state.or.us/03reg/measures/hb2700.dir/hb2768.a.html





I've already sent him, my house & senate representatives my opinions and

I do encourage all of you to do the same.





Michael



-----Original Message-----

From: Roger Joys [mailto:roger-@speakeasy.net]

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:17 PM

To: obra

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a stop--House

Bill Passes





OK instead of all of us bantering about on the chat board, does anyone

know the address or email address of the legislators sponsoring this

bill, so we can send our views to someone who can do somthing productive

with them...







Thanks..







-r "When trackstands are outlawed, only outlaws will trackstand"











On 07 May 2003, mar-@hevanet.com wrote:







 Track stands may become a lost art in

 Oregon.... This article was found in the

 Tuesday, May 6th "Oregonian", Page B4 in the

 Political Notebook section:

 


 ~~~<<>>~~~ "Cyclists won't need to stop at

 signs, flashing red lights"

 


 SALEM -- Bicycle riders no longer have to

 come to a complete halt at stop signs or

 flashing red lights with a bill the House

 approved Monday.

 


 House Bill 2768, which passed 46-9 and was

 sent to the Senate, would require cyclists to

 ride at a safe speed and yield right of way to

 vehicles or pedestrians stopped at or

 approaching intersections. The proposal

 essentially allows bike riders to read stop

 signs or flashing red lights as "yield" signs.

 


 Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience

 of getting out of toe clips, and the energy

 needed to fully stop and start their bikes.

 


 -- Janie Har

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roger-@speakeasy.net

OK instead of all of us bantering about on the chat board, does anyone know the address or email address of the legislators sponsoring this bill, so we can send our views to someone who can do somthing productive with them...

Thanks..

-r "When trackstands are outlawed, only outlaws will trackstand"

On 07 May 2003, mar-@hevanet.com wrote:

 Track stands may become a lost art in


Oregon.... This article was found in the


Tuesday, May 6th "Oregonian", Page B4 in the


Political Notebook section:




~~~<<>>~~~ "Cyclists won't need to stop at


signs, flashing red lights"




SALEM -- Bicycle riders no longer have to


come to a complete halt at stop signs or


flashing red lights with a bill the House


approved Monday.




House Bill 2768, which passed 46-9 and was


sent to the Senate, would require cyclists to


ride at a safe speed and yield right of way to


vehicles or pedestrians stopped at or


approaching intersections. The proposal


essentially allows bike riders to read stop


signs or flashing red lights as "yield" signs.




Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience


of getting out of toe clips, and the energy


needed to fully stop and start their bikes.




-- Janie Har

Peter Murphy

I didn't know it was law for all bike riders to wear a bike helmet.





 From: "Packard, Michael/CVO" <MPac-@CH2M.com>

Reply-To: MPac-@CH2M.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a stop--House Bill

Passes

Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:43:45 -0600



Whoopee - what's next? -- Motorcyclist's complaining that it's too hard

on their brakes (feet & hands) to stop effectively / completely at

intersections!!?? <whine / whimper> "It hurts to downshift, stop, and

put my foot down" <whimper / whine>



I live in Corvallis where many of the University students already ignore

the wearing of helmets as well as the stop signs and lights in town -

it's annoying, dangerous AND they're generally not even clipped in.



As someone who also needs to drive frequently, this bill is just way too

dangerous for all involved - unless you're in the middle of Eastern

Oregon of course.



However, just in case you think this is a good idea - it's bad enough

riding and sharing the road with the motorists now (in some areas), just

wait until this bill passes - all the more reasons for the motorists to

"drive aggressively" when you're around.



My 2 cents.



Michael





-----Original Message-----

From: james-@aol.com [mailto:james-@aol.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:26 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a

stop--House Bill Passes





In a message dated 5/7/2003 8:24:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

mar-@hevanet.com writes:













Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience of getting out of

toe

clips, and the energy needed to fully stop and start their

bikes.







Maybe they should just take the bus or drive a car.



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Whoopee - what's next? -- Motorcyclist's complaining that it's too hard

on their brakes (feet & hands) to stop effectively / completely at

intersections!!?? <whine / whimper> "It hurts to downshift, stop, and

put my foot down" <whimper / whine>



I live in Corvallis where many of the University students already ignore

the wearing of helmets as well as the stop signs and lights in town -

it's annoying, dangerous AND they're generally not even clipped in.



As someone who also needs to drive frequently, this bill is just way too

dangerous for all involved - unless you're in the middle of Eastern

Oregon of course.



However, just in case you think this is a good idea - it's bad enough

riding and sharing the road with the motorists now (in some areas), just

wait until this bill passes - all the more reasons for the motorists to

"drive aggressively" when you're around.



My 2 cents.



Michael





-----Original Message-----

From: james-@aol.com [mailto:james-@aol.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:26 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclists must no longer come to a

stop--House Bill Passes





In a message dated 5/7/2003 8:24:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

mar-@hevanet.com writes:













Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience of getting out of

toe

clips, and the energy needed to fully stop and start their

bikes.







Maybe they should just take the bus or drive a car.



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<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000

size=2>Whoopee - what's next? -- Motorcyclist's complaining that it's too hard

on their brakes (feet & hands) to stop effectively / completely at

intersections!!??  <whine / whimper> "It hurts to downshift, stop,

and put my foot down" <whimper / whine></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000 size=2>I

live in Corvallis where many of the University students already ignore the

wearing of helmets as well as the stop signs and lights in town - it's annoying,

dangerous AND they're generally not even clipped in.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000 size=2>As

someone who also needs to drive frequently, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN

class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000 size=2>this bill is

just way too dangerous for all involved - unless you're in the middle of

Eastern Oregon of course.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000

size=2>However, just in case you</FONT></SPAN><SPAN

class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000 size=2><SPAN

class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000 size=2> think this

is a good idea - it's bad enough riding and sharing the road with the

motorists now (in some areas), just wait until this bill passes - all the more

reasons for the motorists to "drive aggressively" when you're

around.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=923462615-07052003><FONT face=Tahoma color=#800000 size=2>My 2

cents.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience of getting out of toe

clips, and the energy needed to fully stop and start their bikes.







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Track stands may become a lost art in Oregon.... This article was found

in the Tuesday, May 6th "Oregonian", Page B4 in the Political Notebook

section:



~~~<<>>~~~

"Cyclists won't need to stop at signs, flashing red lights"



SALEM -- Bicycle riders no longer have to come to a complete halt at

stop signs or flashing red lights with a bill the House approved Monday.



House Bill 2768, which passed 46-9 and was sent to the Senate, would

require cyclists to ride at a safe speed and yield right of way to

vehicles or pedestrians stopped at or approaching intersections. The

proposal essentially allows bike riders to read stop signs or flashing

red lights as "yield" signs.



Cyclists have complained of the inconvenience of getting out of toe

clips, and the energy needed to fully stop and start their bikes.



-- Janie Har