Fw: - Even Steven

Debra Krichko

2003-05-12



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MessageIn 3 years of racing in Oregon, this was one of, if not THE most enjoyable races I've been able to participate in. It was a great opportunity for all categories of women (new riders, older riders, whatever) to show up and have a field of their peers to ride with. And what a beautiful (and yes - challenging) course to do it on!   Shirley Brown and EWEB did an outstanding job and I'm looking forward to next years race!



Debbi Krichko





----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Goldstein

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 9:52 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] - Even Steven





I don't think the stated objective was divisive at all. Putting on a race with multiple fields and providing support for those fields is expensive. Most always, promoters money is spent on the mens fields. THis race provided an opportunity for women that they rarely get, i.e. to race with narrowly defined categories, which usually only men get to enjoy.



In that aim, the race succeeded. Any woman who showed up was welcomed with a rare opportunity to race with a narrowly defined peer group and have a competitive race on a wonderful course in a well supported environment.



Scott





-----Original Message-----

From: snjr [mailto:sn-@charter.net]

Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 9:36 AM

To: flash-@aol.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] - Even Steven





Greetings all:



Just out of curiosity, did this event accomplish its stated goal? I have to admit, I found the stated objective pretty divisive. I think a better goal would be to promote racing generally, leaning toward fostering new riders, not just women riders. Many of you may recall a time when there were few categories, however, as interest in the sport grew so did the frequency and number of categories. In my experience as a promoter, I believe promoters should field the categories that make the most sense in terms of participants and then include several categories for beginners, perhaps, beginner men, women and veterans. I believe the end result will be more advantageous to us all.



Anyway, thanks for putting on a race!



Richard Randleman



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<DIV><FONT size=2>In 3 years of racing in Oregon, this was one of, if not

THE most enjoyable races I've been able to participate in.  It was a

great opportunity for all categories of women (new riders, older riders,

whatever)  to show up and have a field of their peers to ride with. 

And what a beautiful (and yes - challenging) course to do it on!  

</FONT><FONT size=2>Shirley Brown and EWEB did an outstanding job and I'm

looking forward to next years race!  </FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Debbi Krichko</FONT></DIV>

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Goldstein</A> </DIV>

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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 9:52 AM</DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=581393216-12052003>I

don't think the stated objective was divisive at all.  Putting on a race

with multiple fields and providing support for those fields is expensive. 

Most always, promoters money is spent on the mens fields.  THis race

provided an opportunity for women that they rarely get, i.e. to race with

narrowly defined categories, which usually only men get to enjoy. 

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class=581393216-12052003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=581393216-12052003>In

that aim, the race succeeded.  Any woman who showed up was welcomed with a

rare opportunity to race with a narrowly defined peer group and have a

competitive race on a wonderful course in a well supported

environment.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>

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class=581393216-12052003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN

class=581393216-12052003>Scott</SPAN></FONT></DIV>

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class=581393216-12052003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>

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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> snjr

[mailto:sn-@charter.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 9:36

AM<BR><B>To:</B> flash-@aol.com; ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:

[OBRA Chat] - Even Steven<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings all:</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just out of curiosity, did this event accomplish

its stated goal?  I have to admit, I found the stated objective pretty

divisive.  I think a better goal would be to promote racing generally,

leaning toward fostering new riders, not just women riders.  Many of you

may recall a time when there were few categories, however, as interest in the

sport grew so did the frequency and number of categories.  In my

experience as a promoter, I believe promoters should field the categories that

make the most sense in terms of participants and then include several

categories for beginners, perhaps, beginner men, women and veterans.  I

believe the end result will be more advantageous to us all.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, thanks for putting on a

race!</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard Randleman</FONT></DIV>

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