Tech Question

T. Kenji Sugahara

2013-10-02

Thanks all for the feedback!

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, wrote:
> Wow! Bikes are complicated. Being of a simple mind........I am thinking
> Kenji wore out the 15T cog so maybe he should just be riding a SS with a 15T
> on the back. It seems he can do most of what it does with that ratio.
> Good luck Kenji!
> ron
>
> From: Drew Coleman
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:28 PM
> To: Sarah Tisdale ; RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
> That was pretty much my response as well. Additionally, chains are specific
> to speeds as they too get thinner the more cogs it must navigate (SS = thick
> links, 11 speed = thinnest links).
>
> ________________________________
> From: sarah.s.tisdale@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:21:06 -0700
> To: RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
> CC: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
> And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's a
> 2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when there's
> a 1-tooth jump.
>
> See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml
>
> Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a bad
> idea.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
>
> I expect there would also be a spacing difference that could interfere with
> the reliability a such a substitution.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
> Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
> One, it's completely impossible.
> Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
> Three, I said it was a good idea all along.
>
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
>
> See the last table on this page:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml
>
> The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:
> - shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm
> - shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm
>
> Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:
>
> Nope. Time to replace the bike.
>
> ________________________________
> From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> To: ""
> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
>
> So here's a question for the geeks out there:
>
> Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
> sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
> cassette to replace it?
>
> (talking about a 15t cog)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
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David MacFarlane

2013-10-02

Just take the spacers on either side of the 15 tooth 9 sp. cog and sand them down a little. Put a piece of sandpaper on a flat surface and slide it around. You only need to take off .1 mm so you don't have to do much. This will center the cog in the cassette so all your spacing will be right. The cog thickness itself is no factor.


Eric Aldinger

2013-10-02

Sarah is nerdy like a boss!

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Erik Voldengen wrote:

> Just don't ride in the 15t cog anymore. You're welcome!
>
>
> - Erik
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, wrote:
>
>> Wow! Bikes are complicated. Being of a simple mind........I am
>> thinking Kenji wore out the 15T cog so maybe he should just be riding a SS
>> with a 15T on the back. It seems he can do most of what it does with that
>> ratio.
>> Good luck Kenji!
>> ron
>>
>> *From:* Drew Coleman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:28 PM
>> *To:* Sarah Tisdale ; RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
>> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>>
>> That was pretty much my response as well. Additionally, chains are
>> specific to speeds as they too get thinner the more cogs it must navigate
>> (SS = thick links, 11 speed = thinnest links).
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: sarah.s.tisdale@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:21:06 -0700
>> To: RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
>> CC: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>>
>> And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's
>> a 2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when
>> there's a 1-tooth jump.
>>
>> See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:
>> http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml
>>
>> Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a
>> bad idea.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I expect there would also be a spacing difference that could interfere
>> with the reliability a such a substitution.
>>
>> Rick Johnson
>> Bend, Oregon
>>
>> Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
>> One, it's completely impossible.
>> Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
>> Three, I said it was a good idea all along.
>>
>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>
>> On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
>>
>> See the last table on this page:
>> http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml
>>
>> The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:
>> - shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm
>> - shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm
>>
>> Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:
>>
>> Nope. Time to replace the bike.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"T. Kenji Sugahara"
>> *To: *""
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
>> *Subject: *[OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>>
>>
>> So here's a question for the geeks out there:
>>
>> Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
>> sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
>> cassette to replace it?
>>
>> (talking about a 15t cog)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Kenji Sugahara
>> Executive Director
>> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
>> Phone: 503-278-5550
>> http://www.obra.org
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Erik Voldengen

2013-10-02

Just don't ride in the 15t cog anymore. You're welcome!

- Erik

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, wrote:

> Wow! Bikes are complicated. Being of a simple mind........I am
> thinking Kenji wore out the 15T cog so maybe he should just be riding a SS
> with a 15T on the back. It seems he can do most of what it does with that
> ratio.
> Good luck Kenji!
> ron
>
> *From:* Drew Coleman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:28 PM
> *To:* Sarah Tisdale ; RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
> That was pretty much my response as well. Additionally, chains are
> specific to speeds as they too get thinner the more cogs it must navigate
> (SS = thick links, 11 speed = thinnest links).
>
> ------------------------------
> From: sarah.s.tisdale@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:21:06 -0700
> To: RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
> CC: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
> And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's a
> 2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when
> there's a 1-tooth jump.
>
> See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml
>
> Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a
> bad idea.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> I expect there would also be a spacing difference that could interfere
> with the reliability a such a substitution.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
> Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
> One, it's completely impossible.
> Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
> Three, I said it was a good idea all along.
>
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
>
> See the last table on this page:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml
>
> The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:
> - shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm
> - shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm
>
> Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:
>
> Nope. Time to replace the bike.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"T. Kenji Sugahara"
> *To: *""
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
> *Subject: *[OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
>
> So here's a question for the geeks out there:
>
> Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
> sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
> cassette to replace it?
>
> (talking about a 15t cog)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
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rondot@spiritone.com

2013-10-01

Wow! Bikes are complicated. Being of a simple mind........I am thinking Kenji wore out the 15T cog so maybe he should just be riding a SS with a 15T on the back. It seems he can do most of what it does with that ratio.
Good luck Kenji!
ron

From: Drew Coleman
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:28 PM
To: Sarah Tisdale ; RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question

That was pretty much my response as well. Additionally, chains are specific to speeds as they too get thinner the more cogs it must navigate (SS = thick links, 11 speed = thinnest links).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sarah.s.tisdale@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:21:06 -0700
To: RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question

And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's a 2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when there's a 1-tooth jump.

See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:
http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml

Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a bad idea.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:

I expect there would also be a spacing difference that could interfere with the reliability a such a substitution.

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
One, it's completely impossible.
Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
Three, I said it was a good idea all along.

Arthur C. ClarkeOn 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:

See the last table on this page:
http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml

The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:

- shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm

- shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm

Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:

Nope. Time to replace the bike.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
To: ""
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question

So here's a question for the geeks out there:

Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
cassette to replace it?

(talking about a 15t cog)

Thanks!

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org
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Drew Coleman

2013-10-01

That was pretty much my response as well. Additionally, chains are specific to speeds as they too get thinner the more cogs it must navigate (SS = thick links, 11 speed = thinnest links).

From: sarah.s.tisdale@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:21:06 -0700
To: RickCJohnson1@gmail.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question

And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's a 2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when there's a 1-tooth jump.

See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:

http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml

Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a bad idea.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:





I expect there would also be a spacing
difference that could interfere with the reliability a such a
substitution.

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
One, it's completely impossible.
Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
Three, I said it was a good idea all along.

Arthur C. Clarke
On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:







See the last table on this page:

http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml


The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:


- shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm


- shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm


Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)






On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM,
wrote:



Nope. Time
to replace the bike.

From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"

To: ""

Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question

So here's a question for the geeks out there:

Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette.
There's one

sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from
a 9 speed

cassette to replace it?

(talking about a 15t cog)

Thanks!

--

Kenji Sugahara

Executive Director

Oregon Bicycle Racing Association

Phone: 503-278-5550

http://www.obra.org

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joec@aracnet.com

2013-10-01

It would get you home...

Joe

On 2013-10-01 14:21, Sarah Tisdale wrote:

> And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's a 2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when there's a 1-tooth jump.
>
> See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml [2]
>
> Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a bad idea.
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> I expect there would also be a spacing difference that could interfere with the reliability a such a substitution.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
> Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
> One, it's completely impossible.
> Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
> Three, I said it was a good idea all along.
>
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
>
> See the last table on this page:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml [3]
>
> The "Sprocket Thickness" column says: - shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm - shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm
>
> Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:
>
> Nope. Time to replace the bike.
>
> -------------------------
> FROM: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> TO: ""
> SENT: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
> SUBJECT: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>
> So here's a question for the geeks out there:
>
> Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
> sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
> cassette to replace it?
>
> (talking about a 15t cog)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550 [4]
> http://www.obra.org [5]
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Sarah Tisdale

2013-10-01

And, spacing aside, not all 15-tooth cogs are identical. With there's a
2-tooth jump to the next cog, there can be different ramps than when
there's a 1-tooth jump.

See the first picture on this page to see what I'm talking about:
http://sheldonbrown.com/k9.shtml

Could you make it work in a pinch? Probably. Long term? Seems like a bad
idea.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:

> I expect there would also be a spacing difference that could interfere
> with the reliability a such a substitution.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
> Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction...
> One, it's completely impossible.
> Two, it's possible, but it's not worth doing.
> Three, I said it was a good idea all along.
>
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:
>
> See the last table on this page:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml
>
> The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:
> - shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm
> - shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm
>
> Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:
>
>> Nope. Time to replace the bike.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"T. Kenji Sugahara"
>> *To: *""
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
>> *Subject: *[OBRA Chat] Tech Question
>>
>>
>> So here's a question for the geeks out there:
>>
>> Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
>> sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
>> cassette to replace it?
>>
>> (talking about a 15t cog)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Kenji Sugahara
>> Executive Director
>> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
>> Phone: 503-278-5550
>> http://www.obra.org
>> _______________________________________________
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Rick Johnson

2013-10-01





I expect there would also be a spacing
difference that could interfere with the reliability a such a
substitution.



Rick Johnson

Bend, Oregon

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On 10/1/2013 1:50 PM, Sarah Tisdale wrote:







See the last table on this page:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml




The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:


- shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm


- shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm




Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)



















On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, <jon.ragsdale@comcast.net>
wrote:



Nope.  Time
to replace the bike.





From: "T. Kenji Sugahara" <kenji@obra.org>

To: "<obra@list.obra.org>"
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Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question






So here's a question for the geeks out there:



Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette.
 There's one

sprocket that's toast.  Can you grab a sprocket from
a 9 speed

cassette to replace it?



(talking about a 15t cog)



Thanks!



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Sarah Tisdale

2013-10-01

See the last table on this page:
http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.shtml

The "Sprocket Thickness" column says:
- shimano 9sp thickness = 1.78mm
- shimano 10sp thickness = 1.6mm

Campy 9sp and 10sp cogs are much closer (1.75mm vs 1.7mm)

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote:

> Nope. Time to replace the bike.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"T. Kenji Sugahara"
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> So here's a question for the geeks out there:
>
> Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
> sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
> cassette to replace it?
>
> (talking about a 15t cog)
>
> Thanks!
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jon.ragsdale@comcast.net

2013-10-01

Nope. Time to replace the bike.

----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
To: ""
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:54 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tech Question

So here's a question for the geeks out there:

Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
cassette to replace it?

(talking about a 15t cog)

Thanks!

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org
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T. Kenji Sugahara

2013-10-01

So here's a question for the geeks out there:

Say for example you have a 10 speed 12-25 cassette. There's one
sprocket that's toast. Can you grab a sprocket from a 9 speed
cassette to replace it?

(talking about a 15t cog)

Thanks!

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org