tackyglueit

we have had some very euro courses this year, very "cross" specific, not to
mention the conditions, (early mud)! Zandercross, Ninkrossi and Barlow for
example were amazing. big thanks to those course designers and all the
others thus far.

did you see what they were racing on this past weekend in Belgium?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHtjI0GVHc
this could easily be pdx.

Your email makes no sense to me Ron? thanks though, love the dialouge

-Jeremy

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Jeff McNamee wrote:

> There will be mud! Thanks, Ron!
>
> GPET ---> http://cyclocross.gp/
>
> Race Flyer ---> http://buylocalcycling.com/HeiserFarms2013/
>
> Eric and Jeff
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> The following is open for discussion......you can tell me how lame my
>> point of view is or...
>> As I recall a few years back...maybe the second Heiser...
>> They sent us a little more South along the edge of the field with some
>> snaking in and out through trees before connecting with the gravel road on
>> the East side. It was a total fun mud-fest out there and worthy of an
>> “Epic Course” designation. It was so very hard to work through that
>> stuff. Even some dismounting other than the barriers.
>> If we do or do not have sections like that in courses, I realize it is
>> the same for all the riders...........but remember that Cyclocross by
>> definition is about transitions on and off the bike. An mind you......I
>> HATE to run with my bike!!!! But it is the right thing to do on a cross
>> course. I am not picking on Heiser, it just happens to be the next weekend
>> race coming up. It seems courses in general are becoming more open and
>> fast with less technical. I am not interested in Cross courses being made
>> up of single track, but surfaces where you really have to drive the bike,
>> not just be able to ride fast. I will accept fast open courses, but I will
>> have much more fun on sketchy courses. Cross is NOT a Gravel Grinder,
>> Spring Classic, Criterium, Grass Track or Short Track MTB. It is
>> Cyclocross.
>> We have already had some fantastic courses this year and more to come. I
>> am not whining, but hope we will continue to be challenged by the course
>> designers. I know that a “fast course” can become a very technical one
>> with some rain so expect all will work out well for everyone. In all
>> truthfulness, we have had an excellent early season with regard to moisture
>> compared to past few years. I look forward to The Blind Date...damp again,
>> Heiser with some wetness for sure and last I heard RAIN for the Opening of
>> the Crusade at Alpenrose. Looks like a good week to be a Crosser in
>> Oregon. I bet the Thrills Series has even had some moisture. That might
>> help keep that dust down for you racers in C.O.
>> Have fun out there.
>> ron
>>
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Jeff McNamee

There will be mud! Thanks, Ron!

GPET ---> http://cyclocross.gp/

Race Flyer ---> http://buylocalcycling.com/HeiserFarms2013/

Eric and Jeff

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM, wrote:

>
> The following is open for discussion......you can tell me how lame my
> point of view is or...
> As I recall a few years back...maybe the second Heiser...
> They sent us a little more South along the edge of the field with some
> snaking in and out through trees before connecting with the gravel road on
> the East side. It was a total fun mud-fest out there and worthy of an
> “Epic Course” designation. It was so very hard to work through that
> stuff. Even some dismounting other than the barriers.
> If we do or do not have sections like that in courses, I realize it is the
> same for all the riders...........but remember that Cyclocross by
> definition is about transitions on and off the bike. An mind you......I
> HATE to run with my bike!!!! But it is the right thing to do on a cross
> course. I am not picking on Heiser, it just happens to be the next weekend
> race coming up. It seems courses in general are becoming more open and
> fast with less technical. I am not interested in Cross courses being made
> up of single track, but surfaces where you really have to drive the bike,
> not just be able to ride fast. I will accept fast open courses, but I will
> have much more fun on sketchy courses. Cross is NOT a Gravel Grinder,
> Spring Classic, Criterium, Grass Track or Short Track MTB. It is
> Cyclocross.
> We have already had some fantastic courses this year and more to come. I
> am not whining, but hope we will continue to be challenged by the course
> designers. I know that a “fast course” can become a very technical one
> with some rain so expect all will work out well for everyone. In all
> truthfulness, we have had an excellent early season with regard to moisture
> compared to past few years. I look forward to The Blind Date...damp again,
> Heiser with some wetness for sure and last I heard RAIN for the Opening of
> the Crusade at Alpenrose. Looks like a good week to be a Crosser in
> Oregon. I bet the Thrills Series has even had some moisture. That might
> help keep that dust down for you racers in C.O.
> Have fun out there.
> ron
>
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Eric Aldinger

Hush you. I hate the deep mud.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM, wrote:

>
> The following is open for discussion......you can tell me how lame my
> point of view is or...
> As I recall a few years back...maybe the second Heiser...
> They sent us a little more South along the edge of the field with some
> snaking in and out through trees before connecting with the gravel road on
> the East side. It was a total fun mud-fest out there and worthy of an
> “Epic Course” designation. It was so very hard to work through that
> stuff. Even some dismounting other than the barriers.
> If we do or do not have sections like that in courses, I realize it is the
> same for all the riders...........but remember that Cyclocross by
> definition is about transitions on and off the bike. An mind you......I
> HATE to run with my bike!!!! But it is the right thing to do on a cross
> course. I am not picking on Heiser, it just happens to be the next weekend
> race coming up. It seems courses in general are becoming more open and
> fast with less technical. I am not interested in Cross courses being made
> up of single track, but surfaces where you really have to drive the bike,
> not just be able to ride fast. I will accept fast open courses, but I will
> have much more fun on sketchy courses. Cross is NOT a Gravel Grinder,
> Spring Classic, Criterium, Grass Track or Short Track MTB. It is
> Cyclocross.
> We have already had some fantastic courses this year and more to come. I
> am not whining, but hope we will continue to be challenged by the course
> designers. I know that a “fast course” can become a very technical one
> with some rain so expect all will work out well for everyone. In all
> truthfulness, we have had an excellent early season with regard to moisture
> compared to past few years. I look forward to The Blind Date...damp again,
> Heiser with some wetness for sure and last I heard RAIN for the Opening of
> the Crusade at Alpenrose. Looks like a good week to be a Crosser in
> Oregon. I bet the Thrills Series has even had some moisture. That might
> help keep that dust down for you racers in C.O.
> Have fun out there.
> ron
>
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> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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Eric Aldinger

rondot@spiritone.com

The following is open for discussion......you can tell me how lame my point of view is or...
As I recall a few years back...maybe the second Heiser...
They sent us a little more South along the edge of the field with some snaking in and out through trees before connecting with the gravel road on the East side. It was a total fun mud-fest out there and worthy of an “Epic Course” designation. It was so very hard to work through that stuff. Even some dismounting other than the barriers.
If we do or do not have sections like that in courses, I realize it is the same for all the riders...........but remember that Cyclocross by definition is about transitions on and off the bike. An mind you......I HATE to run with my bike!!!! But it is the right thing to do on a cross course. I am not picking on Heiser, it just happens to be the next weekend race coming up. It seems courses in general are becoming more open and fast with less technical. I am not interested in Cross courses being made up of single track, but surfaces where you really have to drive the bike, not just be able to ride fast. I will accept fast open courses, but I will have much more fun on sketchy courses. Cross is NOT a Gravel Grinder, Spring Classic, Criterium, Grass Track or Short Track MTB. It is Cyclocross.
We have already had some fantastic courses this year and more to come. I am not whining, but hope we will continue to be challenged by the course designers. I know that a “fast course” can become a very technical one with some rain so expect all will work out well for everyone. In all truthfulness, we have had an excellent early season with regard to moisture compared to past few years. I look forward to The Blind Date...damp again, Heiser with some wetness for sure and last I heard RAIN for the Opening of the Crusade at Alpenrose. Looks like a good week to be a Crosser in Oregon. I bet the Thrills Series has even had some moisture. That might help keep that dust down for you racers in C.O.
Have fun out there.
ron